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Xtra Vibes
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Posted : Jun 7, 2008 16:06
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mm a opinion (negative or positive)i think that is always welcome. to be better and better. |
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DETOX
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Posted : Jun 7, 2008 16:20
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Natmag thanks for not answering to the facts i provided based on your lies from your original post,its now 100% clear that your problem is personal (although i dont have a clue why) and that your opinion is not worthy of attention.
Any other constructive and unbiased critisism is more than welcome from the people of this forum.
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electrojoseph82
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Posted : Jun 7, 2008 16:51
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Psy_mystic
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Posted : Jun 7, 2008 17:46
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C'mon guys, this looks like it could turn into a v useful and informative discussion.
I agree with Detox about backing up your posts when you critisize a team, be it good or bad.Saying this team rocks and that one sucks without providing an argument aint gonna help.
My 2p 
ps. I'm gonna keep an eye on this topic as im interested to find out how things are in athens atm . From both the party ppl and the promoters point of view.
"Detox is for queers" |
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uforica025
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 and the Oscar goes to.... 
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Navigatoras
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Posted : Jun 8, 2008 14:50
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best teams psyacoustics & cube....
worst teams natural high antiparties & extra vibes kids cheese full on..... |
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Kostaxx
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Posted : Jun 8, 2008 15:00
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best efforts from Xtra Vibes & Psyacoustics.
Natural & the Cube , "mia apo ta idia". |
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Nurbs
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Posted : Jun 8, 2008 16:08
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Cube and Psyacoustics for me . Serious effort from both, respect
i cum in peace |
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MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
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id like to piont out some thinks somethink i would like to post any more ,realy in person im realy tierd with trance here in athens , from day 1 when i started making parties i had problems in general, and to much bla bla
and this doesnt stop,il give u how parties are and
1st of all parties in general are fun yes of but also bussiness . in general every 1 around the world that make parties in all styles of music think about making
back there money and some extra if they didnt they would make private in forest each week, 2 of all
even if a promoter does want to make money is something that most do so i dont understand why in greece people see psy promoters as angels that cose they like something they have to be gaurdians of it,
what is so unsial when u pay 3000 to 5000 per club
same for artists and buggets pass 5000 euros to risk to make money, im sorry but i dont see people every day trowing 5000 around this planet to save trance
its not unisef artists make money ,why shouldnt promoters.know why people have problems in parties
its not up to promoters here we have had some problems like canelations and it normal
this happens all around the planet people are human
and have some times there own problems u can have it all. another isuee clubs we live in 2008 and club fee are same like 2004 when i started making parties from going to them many years all promoters used 20 to 30 euros depenting the events, now clubs from that time pay 3 times the rent they use to plus we have to pay 3 times the fees ,as in each country u have to go with standards of what we pay to make a event,
today in greece it hard with euros, plus please keep in mind paying same fee like 2-3 years before its alot of risk for promoters since they pay so much money to make a event, plus many names have tried to come
and people are always ungratfull, they want parahalu in a 2000 club cose they see in thesaloniki but lavabore or underworld is bad ,they u see astrix or gms in city + plus the sound or deco is not good for u
,make up ure minds there 5-6 promoters each doing diferent names and parties ,trance in general
is 2-5 kinds of music dark full goa ,progg
each person tha makes a party sees what he can do which club he can aford , thats what he can offer
if people dont like him cose he uses a club with bad security or sound and next party u go it problem cose
same shit ,then never go to clubs again,same dawm club play rock and techno with other promoters and the people that go dont coplain with that, u listen 1 type of music and u dont go cose all the time there is a problem with somethink,u dont like some or his parties or hos aditute ,this means u dont like his friends also or the people he works with cose thats how it goes trance is conected many years ,
best promoters
i vote psyacoustics for effort in
thinking like uk parties and international events he sees videos and dvd a likes to have the same cose he in joys that and tries .
2 the cube big promoters have made milions of event
best names biggest clubs most people
why cose there profectional in orginizing and know how its done cose they work with big labels big festival promoters around and till know oldest promoters here in athens.
but both with respect i dont like 1-2 cose they both do
a lot of tring to make changes
now other promoters are small
and difrent i wont put catigories
but they all try lose money money times
and always turn up eating shit from people ,
my advise see which artists
what u relay want to do
and see that the same things same club same efforts
are given and u pick what u like to do
or like this blaming 1 and then something else
ul go crazy in life , honestly its simple
i like that name i have money id like to have fun
and just take friends and go
and that is like going for coffie or out to cinema same chiose. if u think to much u get crazy and mean
and will flip out in the end.old people stoped cose they just got tierd seeing this ,they wanted to work life and
be in quit, honestly have u ever thought that irony
fights will lead u to jail or somewere nasty there laws
like every were and people dont care ,so be more carefull, see thing as people live every day
and stop judging psy all the time and parties
see how its turned up , even sunrize had cancalations
even tranmedia , so i dont see new things in life .
any way i said general things many times and no 1 cares, so it simple for us to go on and u to continue
but if u like changes u think what ud like to do
and we all will try to make what each person can, then its ure chiose to go......
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natmag
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Posted : Jun 10, 2008 22:04
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Dear Detox,
The reason I didn't quote your post wasn't because I didn't have anything to say but because I was simply too bored to start writing whole pages again, turning this topic into a personal argument with you.
Since you insist though, I will point out the most recent fact for you, as you are concerned about the frequency of your parties and your competitive behaviour.
On the weekend of the 16-17 of May, you made 2 parties in a row (on Friday with Human Blue @ Ammos and on Saturday with U-Recken @ Luna Dark). On Friday you competed F.S.I. with Vibrasphere @ the Hall and thankfully on Saturday there was no other party.
As for the total number of your parties, half of Natural High's (which I also don't like) parties are free as you admitted and Extra Vibes are out of my range.
To end with this stupidity, the word "lie" dosn't apply to a person's opinion, try to think of a better one. But still, if you think that you may be my favourite promoter but I'm too shy to admit it, I can live with that 
And man, get serious you are not the one to judge wether my opinion is worthy of attention or not...
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smorphelia8
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Posted : Jun 10, 2008 23:53
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havent been to all those on that list, just 4 of them.. the best? DarkPsySin Parties.. (greek, in greece, with HUGE greek artists names)
nice and naaaasty music tastes: )
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DETOX
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 01:00
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The party with Human Blue was advertised on the internet one week before it took place and posters were out on the road two weeks before.The party with Vibrasphere never ever got advertised here or on any other website that trance parties get posted and i am not even sure if posters circulated on the streets (i at least never saw one),even a user of this forum (Jedi Knight) wondered if this event with Vibrasphere was true or not on the day of the party.So who is competing with whom and how could i know about a party that noone had a clue about?
You seriously have nothing to say to support your arguments and its sparkling clear to everyone in this place by now.
You got a personal problem,its more than obvious,its fine about me since i know that not all people in the world can like me,but please dont try to alter the facts and spread lies in this place,because saying for example that the cube does the most parties from all teams is not an opinion but a lie and i already proved that.
And yes your opinion on the matter doesnt worth a dime because you cant support what you say with solid facts therefore your credibility is in question.
The problem is not that you dont like me or my parties,the problem is that you claim that you dont like my parties for reasons that dont exist anywhere except in your imagination.
5 parties in 5 months are a lot?Damn i am asked to prove that i am not an elephant or what?
Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!! |
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toti
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Posted: Jun 11, 2008
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i wonder where is absolut.. |
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Jun 11, 2008 18:39
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natmag
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Posted : Jun 12, 2008 04:53
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So Detox, I guess the two parties in a row on that weekend were my imagination... 
And you with your "credibility", good information and strong presence in the scene had no idea about the party with Vibrasphere, although I knew it almost 10 days before it was announced.
OK!!!
(I think you should check your informers though  )
Mate, I said what I had to say from the beginning, justifying my position, and I don't know why you spend so much time in this topic, since it's about the public's personal opinions about party organizers, not about the organizers' opinions about themselves!!! A negative opinion is a negative opinion, try to cope with it.
There's nothing for you to prove here!!!
Most -not to say all- of your posts in this thread, are off topic IF you have noticed.
But most of all I don't understand why you insist so much in arguing with me, since you think I have some sort of empathy with you and my words are not worthy of attention. If this is your opinion, you should ignore this thread in a first place.
Now you can go ahead, and have the last word (or maybe sheet of words) since you can't live without it... |
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