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Earliest DIRECT Psytrance Influences and Sounds by Mainstream Artists

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IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 21:49
I'm sure if i did a search i would find several threads which are similar to this topic - and i did consider looking... but i want to be very specific so a fresh starts seems like a good idea.

It's funny but after listening to this kind of music for many years (and sometimes pretty much nothing else) you seem to forget what you used to listen to before... and when you actually do listen again, you notice striking similarities with these apparently modern, 'niche' psytrance genres... and see strong indications of how the stuff actually came about.

The other day i was listening to an early William Orbit project called Bassomatic and on came the track 'Raggafuzz' - and guess what... around two minutes in it hit me - it's Goa... no doubt about it! It even has the old sci-fi/drug samples! The thing is - this album is from 1991 - that's 15 years ago! A full four years before i knowingly started listening to this kind of music!

Ok... on to the question - and it is very specific - this isn't about the pioneers in general. I've been listening to electronic music since the 70s and if i were to name all the great and innovative electronic artists i’ve heard i could be here forever - but that's not what this thread is about.

It's not about the folk that started it all - and definitely not just a matter of listing big names and early favourites. What I’m asking here is what are the earliest DIRECT influences of what most of us on this forum would call ‘psytrance’. Not just the electronic classics which may have inspired psy artists but what are the earliest pieces of music that you are aware of which sound EXACTLY like the music that followed (sometimes at a much later date). To put it another way - who are the DIRECT forerunners of the various genres of psy around today (particularly with regard to genres which are often considered 'new sounds').

For example... take the seminal 1995 album ’Leftism’ by Leftfield

http://www.discogs.com/release/70269

Several of the tracks on that album sound exactly like the kind of psy around at the moment. If you think this current 'full-on' psy trend is a fairly new phenomena then think again... it's been around for at least 11 years! Btw, if you aren't familiar with this album then i really urge you to check it out! If i had to make a top ten of my favourite electronic albums of all time - this one would probably be in the top five. A genuine psytrance (and psy ambient) benchmark created by an outfit not usually associated with the psy scene. Also, must give a quick mention to the track ‘Melt’ - probably my favourite ambient track of all time.

So, the question is...

Who are the direct forerunners of the various psytrance genres around today... and more specifically, who are the early artists who made psytrance but are generally never considered to have ever been part of the scene.
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 21:57
Nice man. I always consedered Leftism to be the album that defined the Progressive House genre that became a huge fashion about 5 years after with Global Underground. In many ways that was and still was a revolutionary and damn fine album. BTW Prodigy had a tune by the name of Goa.
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 22:26
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On 2006-04-08 21:57, Pavel wrote:
Prodigy had a tune by the name of Goa.

http://www.discogs.com/release/7748




Yeah... Prodigy are another good example... especially their more acid stuff.
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headyatail2000
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 22:35
hmmm,
try listenin 2 this indian composer, R.D Burman ( r,i,p)
he used 2 sometimes have some twisted sounds in btw. his trackssss ( made for hindi movies ) ..!

during 70s !!
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 22:41
Also in my eyes (or rather ears) the first Psy Trance tune was Pink Floyd's On The Run.
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 23:57
Just noticed on that review of the Leftfield album...

Style: Leftfield

I know 'leftfield' is a style but it just sounds funny. Reminds me of a sketch on a comedy show i once saw where a doctor calls the baseball player Lou Gehrig into his office to tell him he has 'Lou Gehrig's disease'.

Tasteless... but funny!
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 00:54
Reminds me a good ol' British joke:
Why the pirates are called "The Pirates"?
Because they are!!!
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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 00:58
http://www.talklikeapirate.com/translator.html

This is going way offtopic so i’m out of here!

Yaaaaah and stuff!
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floatyhippyflower


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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 04:25
Yeah the Leftfield left a huge impression on me too.

It's an interesting question; for me I can't honestly say what it was about psy that drew me in as I generally have a very broad taste, like a little bit of pretty much everything and wasn't enough into any one genre that I can now look back on and say "yep, that was my precursor to psy-loving."

Also, I tend to become quite obsessed with individual tracks or albums - another trait of mine which makes my love of psy difficult to pinpoint in that my general musical knowledge has never been very deep as such, for all my appreciation of it is frequently overwhelming.

Off the top of my head, I would agree with Pavel that some of the early psychedelic greats such as Pink Floyd, Jimi and certain Beatles albums have had an influence on my love of the fluffy, mental stuff. I also like enjoy some of the really early avant guarde electronic music, pioneered by the likes of John Cage and Steve Reich. On the actual trance side of things, I remember absolutely loving some of the old acid house tracks that were released in the late 1980's when I was a teenager, and I suppose there's a seed of Goa and psytrance in some of that. On the chill out side, I loved some of the 90's electronic releases such as the Leftfield album as already stated, Primal Scream, One Dove, Faithless, Orb, Massive Attack, Tricky et al, and I also take huge pleasure in good old reggae and dub - Bob Marley, King Tubby, Scientist...yummy. Perhaps my love of all the psy ambient/chill/dub stuff I listen to now is a marriage of those two preferences, because otherwise I've been into some utter shite and/or music completely unreleated to psy. I was pretty sheltered musically, until psy came along and roughed me up a bit. I even missed out on Eat Static when they were at their peak; they completely bypassed me in fact. How much of a travesty is that?!!
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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 04:26
Guess who's been smoking again.
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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 11:15
Future Sounds Of London had some tracks really really close to modern goa in term of atmosphere and twisted sounds, back in the early 90's!           V/A Floating Mirror - OUT NOW - with Celles, Midimal, Electrypnose, Melodix, Troll Scientists, Yab Yum, Gaspard, Ajja, Cradle of Beats! Info on
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http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/mol/mol1cd001.html
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Posted : Apr 11, 2006 14:43
I thought of one. Ozric Tentacles. Mwah!
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Posted : Apr 11, 2006 15:00
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Posted : Apr 11, 2006 15:07
Giorgio Moroder/Donna Summer - I Feel Love           Me>You
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Giorgio Moroder/Donna Summer - I Feel Love



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