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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 14:46
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hey there 
sorry to self-promote us
our album, The Abstract Machinee, released on trishula early this year is exactly this, a wholesome story, starting from chaos and reaching cosmos. it an exploration of darkness in all its ways, from funky/funny grooves to harsh/evil/distorted atmospheres. in fact all tracks are joined together so the listening experience is complete.
in fact the booklet comes with a map of the universe and some text explaining all the journey
if you are looking for stories and conceptual albums i would recommend you check it out
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ciao for now
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  Psychedelic Trance from Argentina
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Trold
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 14:50
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With all the cd's coming out these days, its hard to find the once with true "spirit"......
Time of illusion.
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Pt.
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 15:47
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On 2005-11-16 14:50, Trold wrote:
With all the cd's coming out these days, its hard to find the once with true "spirit"......
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Adham Shaikh - Fusion ?
btw. offtopic, I just bought the new compilation with your new tracks. http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/gfr/gfr1cd004.html .. And I have been thinking about buying the Sundaze compilation, as I know that SUNDANCE RECORDS stands for quality and psy. *so many albums, so little money*
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Krell
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 17:26
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On 2005-11-16 07:20, *Karma Cola* wrote:
So to achieve a deep trance wouldnt it be harder to play assorted artists in a set. This is if u want to create a trance atmosphere.
But lets forget about parties for a minute, and focus on the listener, mainly me whose a home listener. I find it somewhat more 'orderly' in albums to create and experience the trance state. Eg.. the new Antix album was perfect.
As for DJ's, than i guess its got a lot to do with diamonds in the rough. To switch moods etc.. u might need to really understand the floor and crowd if u wanna try somethin new.
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I dont distinguish between parties and home listening - I just target the moods I want to create and the energy levels I want to achieve / build on. What works well at home, works well at parties for me as well.
Tracks are not "diamonds in the rough" for me - I only play tracks I like 100%, even though I listen to them out of a DJ set. I only use tracks which I really really like, this way I keep the quality of the music up relative to my own taste in music.
There just isnt a journey in switching mood and style dramaticly all the time - Since if you were to map out the journey you would be going in circles really
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Nov 17, 2005 18:32
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Thanks for the suggestions guys, and i shall check out the Megalopsy abum in full. I have heard a few tracks tho, and like it.
But back to Krell, u only play tracks in a dj set u absolutely like 100%? What if they have no conections to each other? I mean you cud also playa relatively boring track if u mix it well by following and preceding tracks that give it flavor.
What i mean to say is, tracks can be boring by themselves, but a good dj can make them great tracks by utilizing them in a way that makes sense right?
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Krell
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Posted : Nov 18, 2005 00:48
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On 2005-11-17 18:32, *Karma Cola* wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions guys, and i shall check out the Megalopsy abum in full. I have heard a few tracks tho, and like it.
But back to Krell, u only play tracks in a dj set u absolutely like 100%? What if they have no conections to each other? I mean you cud also playa relatively boring track if u mix it well by following and preceding tracks that give it flavor.
What i mean to say is, tracks can be boring by themselves, but a good dj can make them great tracks by utilizing them in a way that makes sense right?
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If the tracks I use in a set have no connection to each other, or do nothing to make the set interesting that is just bad djing, simple as that
There is no reason to spin a boring track in a set when theres is so much great music to choose from. Of course, Im talking within my own musical taste here - It is very well possible that other people might find a part of a set boring, but by some fluke it still works for them due to the djs talent - However, this is a sideeffect of a set, and not something I target consciously.
I spin mainly to please myself, and therefore I spin the tracks I like the most. I put my faith in that my taste is everybodies taste, and if a track rocks for me, it will rock for other people as well (as long as they like the genre Im spinning of course).
You cant please everybody, so dont try - but you can please yourself, and thats what its about when creating something. (creating flow, mixes and diversity in the journey - which is the art of djing psy I think).
Well - I dont disagree with you that a good DJ can make boring tracks sound better - but I think a good DJ should go for spinning the most interesting and best music he can get his hands on, in a way so that it enhances itself as much as possible.
If someone among the audience finds the tracks themselves boring, it is very well possible that they will nonetheless still enjoy them due to the flow in which they are presented + the style of mixing which is being used.
So, I agree with you - but I just dont see it as a goal, its a sideeffect. Whats boring and whats not, is also different from person to person - I tend to avoid boring things because they bore me, I dont like being bored
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Nov 18, 2005 04:04
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On 2005-11-18 00:48, Krell wrote:
There is no reason to spin a boring track in a set when theres is so much great music to choose from.
I put my faith in that my taste is everybodies taste, and if a track rocks for me, it will rock for other people as well (as long as they like the genre Im spinning of course).
You cant please everybody, so dont try - but you can please yourself, and thats what its about when creating something. (creating flow, mixes and diversity in the journey - which is the art of djing psy I think).
I think a good DJ should go for spinning the most interesting and best music he can get his hands on, in a way so that it enhances itself as much as possible.
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I pretty much agree with the above, but am of a different opinion regardin Dj'in music that solely pleases u.
Shudnt u think about the crowd, their transitions, their emotions. Doesnt mean u ahveto play accordin to their preferences, but isnt ur dj set supposed to be somewhat in *sync* with the crowd?
Well, i guess you learn that from experience, to read a crowd and the party vibe.
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Krell
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Posted : Nov 18, 2005 06:05
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On 2005-11-18 00:48, Krell wrote:
There is no reason to spin a boring track in a set when theres is so much great music to choose from.
I put my faith in that my taste is everybodies taste, and if a track rocks for me, it will rock for other people as well (as long as they like the genre Im spinning of course).
You cant please everybody, so dont try - but you can please yourself, and thats what its about when creating something. (creating flow, mixes and diversity in the journey - which is the art of djing psy I think).
I think a good DJ should go for spinning the most interesting and best music he can get his hands on, in a way so that it enhances itself as much as possible.
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I pretty much agree with the above, but am of a different opinion regardin Dj'in music that solely pleases u.
Shudnt u think about the crowd, their transitions, their emotions. Doesnt mean u ahveto play accordin to their preferences, but isnt ur dj set supposed to be somewhat in *sync* with the crowd?
Well, i guess you learn that from experience, to read a crowd and the party vibe.
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For me, the DJ is a part of the crowd. Only by putting yourself in the listeners position can you truely understand the journey you are undertaking with the audience. (or thats what its like for me, I dont know about other people).
The crowd always wants good music. That part is very easy
My philosophy is that foremost the crowd reacts to the music, and the music doesnt react to the crowd. However, if the crowd does not react to the music, the music must react to the crowd (which means the music must change, since the crowd doesnt go for it).
First of all the DJ is to take responsibility for guiding the audience thru the experience - but he must stay alert and pay notice to whether the crowd goes for what he spins or not.
I have never experienced playing for an audience that didnt go for the music I put on.
By pleasing myself, I please others - Since what pleases me, is the same as what pleases others.
The DJs job is to guide the audience into interesting soundscapes in an audio adventure Not to play whatever hits the crowd might expect him to. That is the difference beteen a "disco dj" and a "trance dj". The voyage, is the difference - Like the DJ being a shaman you could say (if you like the idea of it)
People are alike... You can of course also just choose "safe well known hits" which you know "everybody" will like, then every DJ ends up sounding the same :-/
I dont do that, I follow my heart when choosing the tracks, and I dont care what anyone else thinks... I HOPE people will like it, and share my taste in music... thats all you can hope for I think
If they dont like it, they will hopefully stop dancing so you can adapt the set to the situation. (but quite frankly, my experience is that people will dance to just about anything sometimes - or in reality, I have never watched a dance floor DIE unless there was a dramatic genre switch - Like from Progressive Psy to Electro House).
I think its very important to relate directly to the music and not think about stuff like "better play some of the latest releases from label XXXX since thats a really cool label and I want people to know I play cool music" - or "This track is a big hit everywhere, I will play that just to get people going" - or "better play some of the latest work with Dude X since he is a big name and probably people will like it"...
What I think is stuff like "This track kicks ass, it has a really nice groove coming into it around 128beats into the track, I will mix for that - and it will give energy to the experience over the present bassline - Also, it can create a bridge so that I can slowly begin to spin something more mellow since we have been jumping around to nighttime music for 2 hours now, and we need to move on and this track will be the first in this transition".
If I as a DJ cannot spin the music I feel like listening to at the moment Im DJing it - Then I wouldnt want to be DJing at all (better let someone do it who is up for it).
PS.: I should add, this is all just how I like it - There are no rules really
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Nov 18, 2005 06:39
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The idea that the Dj is a shaman is great actually. Exactly what i think too.
Seems like i cant think of any other q's for now. But stay posted, will be experiencin many more parties soon so i'll definitely have some more 
Thanks a bunch again for the valuable insight.
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Posted : Nov 24, 2005 18:18
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On 2005-11-14 01:38, *Karma Cola* wrote:
plus.. if u know of artist albums that you feel are wholesome journeys per se please do recommend.
Here's mine..
Kemic-Al - Twisted Parameters.
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Hey Karma Cola man thanks for your comments honestly you should watch out also for the next one coming along ... REspect.
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Spiritual_mind
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Posted : Dec 3, 2005 19:43
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These albums always put me on a mind trip....
VA - In Crypto - Kethu Rec.
VA - Boldly Audio - Sanaton Rec.
VA - Mushy Mystery -Trishula Recs.
VA - Psychedelically Yours 3 - Parvati Rec.
VA - Kindzadza And Friends - 13 Dimension Connection -Insomnia Rec.
VA - Dreams Like Desert- Golden Dawn
VA - Deliver Us From Evil-Serephana Rec.
VA - Voice Of Madness
Kindzadza-Waves from Outer Space-Parvati Recs.
N off late....Kemic-al - Twisted Paramaters - Butterfly Recs.
Heard Megalopsy - The Abstract Machine - Trishula Rec. ....Nice sounds...but a bit...different....from the above?
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 02:56
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Thanx dude for the suggestions...
Do u know of any Artist albums tho apart from Kdd and kemic al?
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Spiritual_mind
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 08:16
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Hmmmm...
Bug Funk - Dark Star
Grapes of Wrath & Meteloids-Tits on Fire
Penta-The Penta Files
CPU - Computer Error
Seroxat - Brutal Beats
Space Tribe - Religious Experience
Space Monkey - Psychotic Episode
Perplex - Dynamic Universe
And oh yes....Menog - Emotions
Boom.
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Posted : Dec 9, 2005 12:15
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On 2005-11-14 01:38, *Karma Cola* wrote:
How does an artist create the album????
plus.. if u know of artist albums that you feel are wholesome journeys per se please do recommend.
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Derango's album
+-+talking with ali3ns around the universe+-+
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Dec 10, 2005 10:28
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On 2005-11-14 01:38, *Karma Cola* wrote:
How does an artist create the album????
plus.. if u know of artist albums that you feel are wholesome journeys per se please do recommend.
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Derango's album
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yes..i wud agree with that and also like to add that im interested in hearin a Savage Scream debut album. I have heard a bunch of his tracks and feel that he is quietly provin himself.
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