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Drugs and Trance = NO connection!

___stralia
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 18:55:26
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

Yes your statements are true but the system is inherently corrupt U need money to eat to drink even to enter parties... MOney is the currency money is what U need... So we need to make cashish IDEOLOGY doenst work hehehehheh even though it looks beautiful on paper hehehe or on virtualness ehehehhe anyways we all need a god damn job ...

if u want to change trance change the system first ( good luck)
___NathaN_
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 19:27:39
stope talking about drugs and trance there are ppl whon use drugs 2 anderstend trance and there are ppl who dosent...like me....the music itself works like drug.....:)

kapish?
___spin@
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 21:49:32
i think its a vanit argument.
eventualy... evry1 will do his thing in his own way, and in that way we all come out sounding like preachers or like f***ing demagogs... and i dont think that this is the place for it. imo a serious argument/discussion on this subject can b efective in a smaller friend forum... face to face. perhaps its good that some 1 opened this thread and every body speak up... [u]BUT WHAT NEXT?[/u] u read all the posts and do nothing with it.

i think that the real question should be:[u]HOW THIS MUSIC GOT THIS BAD REPUTATION, AND WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO CHANGE IT?[/u]
every 1 in his small corner...
every 1 with his own...

the subject of this thread is already a huge problm... "drugs & trance = no connection!"
it means that other people (and many of them) find a very big conection... and as u all say: THERE IS NO CONNCTION!
so do something to change it...

b good
___parapsyched
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 22:34:21
i say live and let live.... and any other word would b irrelevent....
i think that`s part of the trance parties perception... or it should b...
do what u like as long as u do it to yourself... and no one else besides u get harmedby your actions.
and to all a good night .
___kaz
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 22:39:08
Yeah, we're all addicts, and if we weren't we wouldn't like trance, and all of the musicians are junkies, from trance to metal. Especially Metallica.

Please. Stop preaching and let people do their own thing, with drugs or without. I trust people to know what's best for them better than me or you.
___prodway
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 23:00:28
Many young kids goin to parties and takin some E or LSD after they start to steal some cash from daddy's pocket and not only from their daddy

drugs not makin your better but worser
if Trance as music have connection to drugs is NOOOOO  but open air parties YES
youngsters goin to that kind of parties to be freaky ,coz they wanna try everything and police don't give a fuck what is the main prob here
i think police and goverment by their steps only advertising ACID to young ppl and after they blame us ( Djs Artists Producers Party Organizers .... )!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i agree with guy's which said that some ppl from our culture resposible for it ( BTW many cops "BALASHIM" like to eat some FRESH ACID so ani meahel lahem kilkul keiva naim ve srita al kol hamoah )

but i suggest to all of you make what you wanna make if it's not harmfull to society , do drugs if you want but know it's not legal and not healthy ( kmo she ima omeret "samim ze ra" )

i agree that in House parties some guys makin drugs but police attacks them too .... i saw alot of ppl got jailed from House party as you call it .......  

Harry you sounds like me ten years ago " Mom she broke the window too why you punnish only me "

DRUGS are illegal not healthy and if you do them know one thing that

1.you will loose your memmory
2.you can became paranoiac
3.you can became addictive
4.you can be jailed ( 4 nothing )
5.you can became otistic person
6.you can loose you money

if you don't belive me try your luck by your own

one more time drugs are bad thing to simulate/stimulate daily life
better go and make sex with your girlsfriend or boyfriend , go to good movie or bring her/him to some romatic place you will enjoy it much more

my last word here  - guys like you made trance connected to drugs
___spin@
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 23:04:19
man... u just answered my question!
HOW THIS MUSIC GOT THIS BAD REPUTATION...


we did it to ourself
___ChillCrew
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 23:08:44
You can lose your memory due to a car accident or old age.
you can become paranoid without using drugs.
you can be addicted to ciggarettes, choccolate, spaghetti, coca cola, anything is an addiciton.

you can be jailed (FOR NOTHING)
people lose their money everyday. if we were all like bill gates, we wouldnt have nothing to worry about. now would we?

im not even gonna refer to the otism bit. that is just being plain stupid and ignorant. otism is a SYNDROM which is inherited by birth. a cause of defected Genes. not some LSD or extacy. so get your Terminology in order.

___spin@
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 23:21:50
u r rigth jason...
but imoh, the last sentence in his post is so true
___ChillCrew
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Posted : Mar 6, 2002 23:57:35
yossi, when a broker loses his money in the stock market, or a gambler at the poker table, or a guy who simply got his wallet stolen, did they not All lose money? people Buy drugs of choice. I resent the implication that we connected trance to drugs. like assaf once said - it's like saying all Led Zeppelin fans are high on cocaine and drinking booze all day. generlizing and engrossing an ENTIRE populous is racist and prejudice. free your mind and your ass will follow. so to speak. just because i Smoke some weed once a month or so and i listen to trance (And a whole lot of other musical Styles, apart from electro), makes me a Junkie and the trance or metal or rap musical scene Drug Induced? I oppose to that. it'll be like saying that the entire Israeli people are arab hater because some fringe group decided so. (same goes vice versa, plz don't turn this into a political debate, it's only an example).
I say this - Live and let live. let people have their own lives without people fearing that their own course of life might be implicated because of someone's infatuation.
___spin@
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Posted : Mar 7, 2002 00:53:32
damn... this argument is on sonthing that we all agree!!!!!!!!!!!!

we r saing the same things man...

im just describing it from the other piont of view (cops,society,media...)

im just tring to understand y this music is related to drugs by every 2nd person?

almost in all the parties drugs r used...
house/club... hiphop/rap... reggae... rock... heavy metal...

so y only trance parties r called drug parties?

i realy wanna know
___ChillCrew
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Posted : Mar 7, 2002 01:02:16
That, my friend, is an ancient Police Dogma. they are the only one's to invent the term and connect it to a certain musical genere. why? cause one time they cought someone. it's perpetual, and people saying stuff like "trance and drugs go hand in hand", are perpetuating this dogma even more.
___spin@
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Posted : Mar 7, 2002 01:22:51
its not only the police...its common language between people.

and i dont think that "cause one time they cought someone" is a good enough reason to keep this dogma alive... im sure that the police cougth drugs in other places too.

the  reason that this dogma is still alive is because the police still find drugs in trance parties and this phenomenon is just growing from party 2 party.

and i believe that we are responsible for this situation. not "we" in person... but "we" like "trance community"
___ChillCrew
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Posted : Mar 7, 2002 01:56:16
to tell you the truth, the only time i heard people talking about DRUG Parties, by that i mean mentioning the actual verb of Drug, was either on TV or as a warning from my folks. NEVER have i heard someone promoting a DRUG Party, or denoting a party as such.
___Chaka_Laka
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Posted : Mar 7, 2002 02:29:50
heh .. why won't drugs be connected 2 trance ?? honestly , most of trance community at least smoke seed ... yes , there are some exeptions but they are few .

how 2 change this ? it's a private choice of everyone who uses drugs - to change it or not , at least in personal aspect  

and last thing . what the mess about police ? and their dogmas ? they r doing their job - to catch as more druggers as they can , trance is just a link between quite a big ammount of such dudes , a fact

p.s. maybe ,somewhere in states , where E goes hand by hand with house music, maybe some of house lovers also have their own site , and maybe they even have a forum 2 discuss about different stuff , and maybe they r asking themselves : WHY E = HOUSE ???    same shit .. in Israel it's trance so let it be ..

p.p.s. just trust in Trance
     

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