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Doctor Spook and bad/no payment !?!?
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Shawnodese
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 17:05
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Wise words from the Guinea brothers here....unlike most of your stuff here Detox. With all respect to you bro, but you assume so much about things and people you don't know. You judge in a nasty way about ANYONE that is not professional according to YOUR personal standards and you're talking like a brainless capitalist here during most of your post. Classifying and degrading people that don't charge big bucks for their tracks as losers, although you're "smart" enough not to use that exact word.....what world do you come from bro ? We're not all interested to book Tiësto or all the psy-big-shots (who wants to book those anyway  ) in Greece like you do and we're not all interested in those big bucks either, so safe us the capitalist preaching please ! Thx 
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DETOX
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Posted : Aug 8, 2007 20:38
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Dear Shawnodese i said my thoughts,i explained them in detail and some people aggree with them (like couple of people who added me on MSN and last night came in contact with me plus some older buddies who came again in contact after long time after my post) and some people including you just dont aggree with them.
As simple as that,its called discussion i think.
No nasty ways of judging,no brainless capitalism,not being "smart",no preaching,no big bucks,no nothing.
Just a person and his opinion,i could just say "hey bad person doctor spook pay those innocent artists" and gain some respect and fame points between you and your friends and people who think like you but i never hide my thoughts and always express them loud and clear without hiding behind my finger.
We just think and judge differently,you got to live with that mate.
Oh and by the way since you mentioned the words capitalism and big bucks in your post i would like to inform you (in case that you dont already know) that one of the last persons that wants and needs to make money out of the trance scene is probably me.
My business allows me to live a very comfortable life with no need to release music and making parties in order to make profit out of them (actually i have lost lots of money from my business relation with trance in every aspect not to mention risking my personal liberty) plus my character and believes in trance are such that i am one of the few persons who has been invited to dj to some of the biggest festivals around (and i am talking about BIG festivals) and i kindly refused with the simple explanation that i am a label owner and not a dj or an artist and i would prefer to see some real djs and artists there rather myself making a joke out of himself on the main stage.
A person who cares about money and fame doesnt act like me i guess,so please save the big money and capitalism preaching remarks for someone else 
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MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 00:57
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ure all talking about money, but not of the concept how to make it as i know u mike u have lots and u say it officialy so that proves that ure visions of trance have no perpose to money just ure ideas and belifes if im right, on 2 thought Shawnodese
is a traveler giging passing his vibes to people and playing around having a cool life ,on both sides i respect that u both live great life ,mostly the 1st 1 to not have to own anything and do as u like, but honestly this has nothing to do with this topic
this topic has to do about no respect ,and nothing about money it has to do with striping dignety out of artists when there willing to give there music to the world to be listened to, and as i know all listen to this word promotion,its is astrong word yes, but when 1 person is good at something
for instence making music the names come with time from his efort ,but when his dignety is stolen it never comes back ,cose it will always folllow him that 1s in his life he lost the only thing he loved
and that was music ,so what we do is we start fresh ,from the start ,new sounds new stuff ,and new label that will make a book for the artists to hold out as the write there life in it ,and they grow up slowly to be heard around ,and make a spot for there name to be known, now about what i see the last years is that mane people that think there heads are so strong they can control everything ,they will wake up 1 day and see they have nothing ,cose lifes circle turns ,and death is so sudden to people that we wont live for ever,so what we can offer till we die is the story of each person, so im sorry but i think the weeles are turning ,and who ever is smart and has a human heart will be saved. sorry for all this artists fighting for there rights ,but since the story says u lost 1 chapter ,it also says u , u just make another 1 till the story ends........good luck
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noises
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 10:33
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fuck it so long topic.....
so conclusion the labels that not pay to artists:
1.GEOMAGNETIC - DR.Spook
2.PSYBERTRIBE - Nik
3.Shamanfilms - Guillermo
4.Write another fucker here... |
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ENERGYLOOP
Energy Loop
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 14:12
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On 2007-08-09 10:33, noises wrote:
fuck it so long topic.....
so conclusion the labels that not pay to artists:
1.GEOMAGNETIC - DR.Spook
2.PSYBERTRIBE - Nik
3.Shamanfilms - Guillermo
4.Write another fucker here...
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well i dont know about PSYBERTRIBE i never hurd of it but Shamanfilms yeah , i'll "second that" , he rip-off tsabeat me and ankur as well...
cheers.
"fuck money..."
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noises
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Posted : Aug 10, 2007 08:21
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On 2007-08-09 14:12, ENERGYLOOP wrote:
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On 2007-08-09 10:33, noises wrote:
fuck it so long topic.....
so conclusion the labels that not pay to artists:
1.GEOMAGNETIC - DR.Spook
2.PSYBERTRIBE - Nik
3.Shamanfilms - Guillermo
4.Write another fucker here...
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well i dont know about PSYBERTRIBE i never hurd of it but Shamanfilms yeah , i'll "second that" , he rip-off tsabeat me and ankur as well...
cheers.
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Like Hagenith say:
LETS BOYCOT THIS FUCKING LABELS. |
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Hagenith
Hagenith
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Posted : Aug 11, 2007 23:39
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i belive to Nik from psybertribe rec...i have arranged to release 2 trax for his label...so we will see after release about his paying...
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Helios23
Helios/MegaDrop
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 21:11
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Good luck dude! Hope you enjoy the act of drawing blood from stone..
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cytopia
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Posted : Dec 6, 2007 12:36
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On 2007-06-19 14:54, Scorb wrote:
Yo!
It even got to number one on Cytopia (a site that say they ensure artists get a fair return on their work!)
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We do pay fairly! Each label and independent artist working with Cytopia.org gets paid 60% - 70 % of the earnings of each sale and can login to view live sales stats.
It complicates matters if an artist is unsure whether the label is paying them for CD & digital sales of the tracks. We pay the label who supplies us with the music and have assumed that label has the rights to distribute that music, and fairly pays the artists which they represent.
It certainly is unsettling to hear about payments not having been made. My experience with Nathan has been fine, but I do think it depends on the exact agreements that have been made.
The number of releases these days and values of the target market contribute to low sales, but again it is important to make clear agreements, and as a label it is important to be transparent and to manage the expectations of those you work with.
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Hagenith
Hagenith
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Posted : Dec 6, 2007 14:33
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Jesus Raves
Jesus Raves / Kanibal Raves
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Posted : Dec 7, 2007 02:30
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For all labels who don't pay artists:
HOW COULD YOU EXPECT TO WE CREATE MUSIC, IF YOU DON'T PAY TO US?! WE SPEND TOO MUCH TIME IN MUSIC PRODUCTION, WE NEED A MONEY FOR EQUIPMENT... HELLOOOOOOO... CAN I BUY EQUIPMENT WITHOUT MONEY, LIKE YOU FUCKERS "BUY" OUR TRACKS?! NO, I CAN'T.
Dear friends artists, don't give a tracks to pigs.
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Zman
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Posted : Dec 7, 2007 02:32
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On 2007-08-09 10:33, noises wrote:
fuck it so long topic.....
so conclusion the labels that not pay to artists:
1.GEOMAGNETIC - DR.Spook
2.PSYBERTRIBE - Nik
3.Shamanfilms - Guillermo
4.Write another fucker here...
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montezuma
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Posted : Dec 7, 2007 14:43
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On 2007-08-09 10:33, noises wrote:
fuck it so long topic.....
so conclusion the labels that not pay to artists:
1.GEOMAGNETIC - DR.Spook
2.PSYBERTRIBE - Nik
3.Shamanfilms - Guillermo
4.Write another fucker here...
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i think conclusion should be try to arrange all before when u deal with label from USA as i see the list here is from USA labels only
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insane
Silent Horror
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Posted : Dec 7, 2007 15:12
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On 2007-08-09 10:33, noises wrote:
fuck it so long topic.....
so conclusion the labels that not pay to artists:
1.GEOMAGNETIC - DR.Spook
2.PSYBERTRIBE - Nik
3.Shamanfilms - Guillermo
4.Write another fucker here...
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And the place for #4 goes to
taaatanaaaaaa
Kagdila ..
surprising people forgot them?
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NEMESIS - DEVILSMIND RECORDS - 2007
PATTERNS EP - DEVILSMIND RECORDS _ 2009
SEANCE - DEVILSMIND RECORDS - 2011
PATTERNS II EP - DEVILSMIND RECORDS _ 2013 |
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a3k
IsraTrance Team
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Posted : Dec 7, 2007 16:58
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ok people i have seen you got complains from labels, but one thing it won´t be tolareted is the level of post going down, i am sure you can state your opinions and experiences without the level of speech going down.let´s all speak our mind with an interesting and educated level yes?
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