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Do Devil Worshipping belong in this scene?
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Jan 18, 2009 18:43
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 18, 2009 22:11
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CRX(HSS Records) - Hahaha!
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vaxination
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Posted : Jan 18, 2009 23:20
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I think the satanism is actually a big inside joke by the church of the subgenius and the flying spagetti monster is actually infecting our domes through the music from outerspace where it lives on an alien satelite that has orbited the planet for thousands of years.
or maybe its just music and people throw satanic references in it to further bug out uptight christians..
nope I think its those discordians again, all hail discordia!
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phasetech
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 02:25
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On 2009-01-17 00:17, index wrote:
I believe that no serious musicians make dark stuff for many reasons.
If you know basics music harmony lessons (or u have a skilled ear)and you hear the way they play pads for example..then you understand what i mean.
Low quality noise.
There are many elements available these days to make music,happy or dark,but if its played by not skilled musicians its like a 3 year old kid that smashes the kitchen.
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... and at last we have THE POINT of discussion!
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V3NOM
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 03:28
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well personally I find the fact that so many people here think that music should only be played by "skilled" musicians is half the problem with our scene.
All the "skilled" musicians seem to release generic stuff and are afraid to experiment and push the idea of what music can possibly be because they are stuck within the boundaries of their education.
Sometimes it takes some noise and some mess to come out creating something new and divine, rather than the same old generic crap again and again.
And by the way, I think the ultimate point is if you don't like a certain style, instead of whining about it for 25 pages on a forum, how about you just don't buy it or leave the dance floor for a break?
Nobody is forcing you to listen to this "devil worship" music, if you want to boycott it then do so by using your powers as a music purchaser and a punter.
Protest in reality is much more effective than having a whinge of a forum under a pseudonym.
Peace out my friends!
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V3NOM
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 03:34
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I would also like to point out that many, many, many artists in this started out as noisy nonsense projects, including some of the champions of the old goa melody style.
Anyway peace out psy-homies!
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 05:38
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sergeantpepper666 - very true indeed...
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Pavel
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 08:20
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On 2009-01-19 03:34, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
I would also like to point out that many, many, many artists in this started out as noisy nonsense projects, including some of the champions of the old goa melody style.
Anyway peace out psy-homies!
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Examples?
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 11:58
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On 2009-01-19 08:20, Pavel wrote:
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On 2009-01-19 03:34, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
I would also like to point out that many, many, many artists in this started out as noisy nonsense projects, including some of the champions of the old goa melody style.
Anyway peace out psy-homies!
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Examples?
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ill jump in here and give my answer 
dosent everybody start out as noisy nonsense and then learn more and become better? at least to some extent..
well i know a few, but why should i give examples, i think its up to them if they want to show were they come from and how it all begun, dont you think?
but sure not all start out writing noisy stuff.. so i cant agree totally! so i have to edit my "true indeed" and say true in some cases 
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phasetech
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 23:01
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On 2009-01-19 03:28, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
well personally I find the fact that so many people here think that music should only be played by "skilled" musicians is half the problem with our scene.
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everyone can play music, but the thing is that only skilled music producers should release music. why would i listen to someone's crappy dark trance with VERY BAD sound and all the same screamers and sfx that i heard 3-4 years ago.. ofcourse, this is highly questionable, cause people consider a lot of things under "skills"... thats why we have stupid discussions like this one..
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On 2009-01-19 03:28, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
All the "skilled" musicians seem to release generic stuff and are afraid to experiment and push the idea of what music can possibly be because they are stuck within the boundaries of their education. |
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Ok, this is your lame try of using irony for defending your thoughts... This is very stupid sentence so i think i'll just pass it..
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On 2009-01-19 03:28, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
Sometimes it takes some noise and some mess to come out creating something new and divine, rather than the same old generic crap again and again. |
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Yeah, i agree but you just keep globalizing stuff... You want to say that DARK PSY is only music that experiments with sound? This just makes me laugh... 
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On 2009-01-19 03:28, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
And by the way, I think the ultimate point is if you don't like a certain style, instead of whining about it for 25 pages on a forum, how about you just don't buy it or leave the dance floor for a break?
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and you are doing what?
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On 2009-01-19 03:28, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
Nobody is forcing you to listen to this "devil worship" music, if you want to boycott it then do so by using your powers as a music purchaser and a punter.
Protest in reality is much more effective than having a whinge of a forum under a pseudonym.
Peace out my friends!
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uh-oh
so many bullcrap things said here!
u have a nice day and have a chat with reality..
bye
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 23:03
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I may have missed a page but are there any videos of satanic artist in this scene?
Maybe I missed another page stating that "scene" meant all music outside of the israTrance forum. It is true that you don't see too many Jesus related photos or covers around here instead, more Hindu.
Satanic Worshipers are just extreme Christians. He was just an angel who rebelled against God who is still KIN to the Heavens by history and had a major roll in helping build the Universe. Best known would be the medieval folklore and theology surrounding demons and witches. Its for sure, a misunderstood religion. Unless of course they are into Ancient Egyptian mythology which conflates Satan with the Egyptian god Seteh.
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phasetech
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 23:06
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there is no such thing as "satan"... all of this satanistic trance bullshit is just a dirty and filthy promotion system.. think about it
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 23:07
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On 2009-01-19 23:06, phasetech wrote:
there is no such thing as "satan"... all of this satanistic trance bullshit is just a dirty and filthy promotion system.. think about it
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exactly, unless your a believer of the faith. everyone is entitled to there subjective ideas. Christians are very subjective or blind, it keeps peace in their World of limitations.
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 23:07
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On 2009-01-19 03:28, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
Protest in reality is much more effective than having a whinge of a forum under a pseudonym.
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I am neither swinging crap nor going by a pseduonym, but i still believe that beeing able to actually create patterns in a track that have the same key or create a harmony is a fundamental cornerstone in musiccreation. No matter what genre.
How many pseudonyms have you gone thru in this forum?
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V3NOM
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 23:12
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Oh wait, what a surprise, the one dude who tries *and FAILS* to degrade my post, has proggi release in hi signature!
Your reply is obviously based on your taste in music and not what I said.
Seeing as I am a trained pianist, guitarist and sangin a professional choir for 5 years and spent 4 years doing work in reputable studio in my hometown mate I know a bit about music as well, and I can tell you know that all the music theory and music lessons in the world do not maketh a good musician
Some of the most recognized and respected musicians in history had no lessons, no training and were completely self taught.
But I guess that the fact that both pro's and thousands of fans alike recognizing such people as say, for a modern example, guitarist Herman Li or drummer Lars Ulrich count for nothing.
You know, them having won all the major industry awars and being recognized in a variety of magazines etc.
It goes to show that sometimes being self taught and experimenting, standing outside of the norm, can be just as important, if not better, than those who follow the standard methods of writing music and production.
No doubt you'll make some smart arse reply of course, I love it when people like you try to be know it alls!
*MUAH* *KISS-KISS* 
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