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Alien Bug
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 12:07
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1) noe ur music
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mquirk1
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 18:11
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don't fuck around with the eq on the mixer while the track is playing.. just leave it flat. i can guarantee what you hear on stage sounds nothing like what it does on the dancefloor, so if you start playing around with the eq it can have disastrous results out the front. leave that for the sound guy (if they have one) or just don't touch it at all. (one exception to that is if the system is lacking in subs then you might boost the bass a bit, but only do this after checking how it sounds out the front)
the typical 3 band dj mixer eq isn't enough to make the changes you need to anyway, proper eqs will have high/low shelfs, plus knobs for changing the frequencies you want to boost/cut etc. |
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 18:49
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On 2009-11-04 18:11, mquirk1 wrote:
don't fuck around with the eq on the mixer while the track is playing.. just leave it flat. i can guarantee what you hear on stage sounds nothing like what it does on the dancefloor, so if you start playing around with the eq it can have disastrous results out the front. leave that for the sound guy (if they have one) or just don't touch it at all. (one exception to that is if the system is lacking in subs then you might boost the bass a bit, but only do this after checking how it sounds out the front)
the typical 3 band dj mixer eq isn't enough to make the changes you need to anyway, proper eqs will have high/low shelfs, plus knobs for changing the frequencies you want to boost/cut etc.
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Are you for real? Leave the EQ? Dont Play around with it? Just dont touch it at all?
I hope you're joking! |
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Shiranui
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 19:09
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The DJ should use the EQ to make up for differences in the frequency content of tracks, and to blend between them
You should not try to use the EQ to compensate for the soundsystem or the room. That is what a rackmount graphical EQ is for (which any decent soundsystem should have!)
As for how to blend between tracks with the EQ, it really depends on the genre of music. Genres like Psy have a very "full" sound that requires very careful EQing or it sounds like shit.
On the other hand, most minimal techno and tech house can be mixed without using the EQ at all and still sound fine.
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 19:37
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On 2009-11-04 19:09, Shiranui wrote:
As for how to blend between tracks with the EQ, it really depends on the genre of music. Genres like Psy have a very "full" sound that requires very careful EQing or it sounds like shit.
On the other hand, most minimal techno and tech house can be mixed without using the EQ at all and still sound fine.
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Ascension
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 19:53
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On 2009-11-04 19:37, Dennis the menace wrote:
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On 2009-11-04 19:09, Shiranui wrote:
As for how to blend between tracks with the EQ, it really depends on the genre of music. Genres like Psy have a very "full" sound that requires very careful EQing or it sounds like shit.
On the other hand, most minimal techno and tech house can be mixed without using the EQ at all and still sound fine.
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OMG, I haven't seen someone use that in years! Well played sir.
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mquirk1
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Posted : Nov 5, 2009 13:38
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On 2009-11-04 18:49, Dennis the menace wrote:
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On 2009-11-04 18:11, mquirk1 wrote:
don't fuck around with the eq on the mixer while the track is playing.. just leave it flat. i can guarantee what you hear on stage sounds nothing like what it does on the dancefloor, so if you start playing around with the eq it can have disastrous results out the front. leave that for the sound guy (if they have one) or just don't touch it at all. (one exception to that is if the system is lacking in subs then you might boost the bass a bit, but only do this after checking how it sounds out the front)
the typical 3 band dj mixer eq isn't enough to make the changes you need to anyway, proper eqs will have high/low shelfs, plus knobs for changing the frequencies you want to boost/cut etc.
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Are you for real? Leave the EQ? Dont Play around with it? Just dont touch it at all?
I hope you're joking!
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i was replying to the dude who said he uses the eq to match the track to the room or soundsystem or whatever. obviously you are going to want to be using the eqs when actually mixing either to drop the bass out or whatever. 'don't fuck around with the eq while the track is playing' means, once you've finished mixing just leave it flat, don't use the eq to compensate for what you hear on stage because it will inevitably sound completely different out the front |
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mquirk1
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Posted : Nov 5, 2009 13:41
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i've come up on stage to dj sometimes and have seen the dj on before me with shit like the high eq knob at 10 o clock, the mid at 2 and the bass around 1. just sounds fucking horrible, even on stage. add the fact that most djs don't really have the audio engineering experience to be able to eq properly they should really just leave the eq alone (except, obviously when mixing two tracks). |
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Becktrank
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 21:38
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normally one i have a track just playing without mixing it, I leave the high and mids fully opened and the bass at two o clock or 3, is that right or should i leave the bass all opened too?
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supergroover
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 01:09
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11 is where everything should be
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mquirk1
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 06:33
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On 2009-11-18 21:38, becktrank wrote:
normally one i have a track just playing without mixing it, I leave the high and mids fully opened and the bass at two o clock or 3, is that right or should i leave the bass all opened too?
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1. you should never have the eq knobs 'fully open' if by fully open you mean turned all the way to the right, cos that can be adding anything from +6-12 db over those frequencies, and since the EQs built into most dj mixers are hardly state of the art you'll be degrading the signal massively (and also probably peaking it).
2. Leave the low/mid/high knobs pointing in the same direction (which should be 12 o'clock, at 0db). |
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Becktrank
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 06:42
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good info mates...thank you
i did that cause i remember when i was just starting djing, was not even into producing, a djing that played in some parties at my hometown said to me that he used to always left mid and his open all to the right, and low q two o clock.
so the right thing is to leave everything at 12 o clock (0db) and only add anything if it is for equalize the two tracks right ? like if one sounds not so loud than the one that is playing u should boost at the proper frequency range or if it sounds louder u should cut..
thanks for the toughts
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Solid Snake
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 10:00
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a 3db increase equates to a doubling of the power, so you can run out of headroom very quickly which will result in driving the compressor/limiter hard. |
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J
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 14:59
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For Progresive mixing, I usually have the Mids and Lows cut off, and the highs at 12.
Just swap the mids, and let baseline kick for a while, and than swap the Lows.
For Techno, the Mid can be at, let's say 7, 8 o'clock.
That's not a rule, however.
It will depend on what I'm mixing (track), and how I want to make the transition. Longer, deeper, short cuts...
But in the end, they're all at 12.  |
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