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DESIDERATA FESTIVAL August 6-7-8-9 upstate NY
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*lovenlight*
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 16:52
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On 2009-08-11 04:15, Alakazam wrote:
This was not a psychedelic trance party.
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It was never meant to be 
@ Caluu: Well Said !!
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maximjou
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 17:59
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wows it wasnt a psytrance party? how could that be? because the prganizers are actualy doing something productive combining genres for once to open the masses to psy trance music. who cares you get agressive people but if they didnt like it they wont come next time big deal. but you people that are complaining about it being a rave> shit i havent even seen a party in my neck of the woods and would love to go, ended up not going to this fest. But yougotta open this music up to other people if not this scene will grow a little but without fans it wont last.
pictures look sick
jumpside crew brough out some bitches on stage always a plus. are they the ones i heard were obnoxious?. gotta show love to the ladies though |
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billy boogie
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 18:41
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Obnoxious. Check. They actually brought "bitches" with big fat asses, so that's a double bonus right there.
Personally I love me some badass drum and bass, but they weren't doing it for me. The whole gangster thing is ridiculous. Aside from them, I really enjoyed the genre mixture. Of course I didn't listen to any of the gabba or whatever they're calling it these days though.
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Psy_Maniac
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 18:45
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On 2009-08-11 16:52, *lovenlight* wrote:
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On 2009-08-11 04:15, Alakazam wrote:
This was not a psychedelic trance party.
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It was never meant to be
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I'd have to disagree, the sets played by most of the artists speak otherwise
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DanVapid
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 18:45
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in brief...
i must say i came away from the festival with a smile on my face and a warm feeling. on the other hand, if the intention of a festival is to build a bridge between communities with potentially overlapping characteristics, then the particular community which is behind this initiative should make sure to put its best foot forward, or else that community will face a setback in its efforts and reputation. so, as a psytrance festival, it was an overall beautiful experience, but as the fusion festival i think it was intended to be, it fell short. that's my honest, concise, and constructive opinion. still, i have infinite gratitude towards everyone who put in their time, energy, and soul to make this event happen, and i hope it's not the last edition. thank you! |
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MadPsyintist
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 18:58
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"jumpside crew brough out some bitches on stage always a plus. are they the ones i heard were obnoxious?. gotta show love to the ladies though"
yeah a great way to show them love is to call them "bitches". speaking of which one of the people in that group calls himself HoKilla....classy. They brought them on stage even though it was prohibited in the artist rules. and half of them were nasty and fat and wearing sideways hats...but hey fat chicks need love to right?
But in all seriousness, those clowns are the scum of the earth. They showed up Sat morning and drove directly onto the main dance floor...parked next to the stage and proceeded to blast awful drum and bass (nothing against DnB but their music sucked) in the middle of other performers sets. They also had a hand-pump air horn that they continually shot off throughout the day and night. I believe I heard one of them shout "this is our culture" during their "set" which was essentially incomprehensible gibberish over generic DnB tracks. If being ignorant and disrespectful to oneself, fellow performers (with actual talent) and people who paid money to attend the festival is your culture then god help you.
What is most ironic is how in the world these people got on the bill in the first place...let alone prime-time main stage slot between a great band PsyLab and one of the sickest artists of the show Ajja. They seem to me to be the antithesis of what Desiderata was supposed to be all about. From the poem Desiderata:
"Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit."
I'm all for variety and multigenre festivals but its important that there always be an alternative. During St8cyde Jump up we went to the other stage to find another DnB DJ (albeit far superior in quality to St8cyde w/out the horrid MCing) so we resorted to our car to escape the madness.
All that said I still had a great time and I felt the organizers did a decent job given the time frame they had to prep the venue. I saw them addressing issues as they arose throughout the weekend. What disheartened me the most was a lack of organization and support for the artists..many of whom played for nothing and in some instances were physically assaulted MID SET! Which is something I think we need to address as a community and perhaps outside of this thread. While we may not need shakedown, meathead bouncers, there should at least be someone in front of the stage to give people a reality check when they reach a point where they feel its acceptable to encroach upon an artist in the middle of his or her performance. |
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*lovenlight*
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 19:11
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What I meant that it was not meant to be ONLY a psy trance party or Only a rave!
it was pretty clear from the get go there would be a wide range of music!
ofcourse i was not prepared for the stateside jump up or who ever those loonies were!!!
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Hexer
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 19:26
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On 2009-08-11 15:20, platypusmalone wrote:
Awesome - we were hoping someone caught the baby chasing our bubble machine bubbles. Such an awesome scene. (http://files.freshmixes.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=desi09&id=IMG_0932 )
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Haha that was the cutest thing I've seen at the party.
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As for the rave/not trance stuff - everyone should have known what to expect to some extent. The jam band/festi-kids are assholes, its nothing new. Anyone you saw with a pitbull was probably a "festi-person", which means they attend festivals for the parking lot scene, not the music.
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Yeah at some point I remember some kids screaming in the morning "Stop with the techno music! It's been driving us fucking crazy!" That was annoying but pretty funny at the same time.
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metus
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 20:29
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 20:58
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Transdriver totally rocked.
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FattyAcid
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 20:59
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that actually looks .pretty.fin.full.on
+ The Win for an oldschool IM set! Seems to have been the perfect selection for this "hybrid" festival
Ravers suck to clean up after, but otherwise, have always made up a pretty good portion of the dancers @ midwest psy events, so I cant hate on em too bad....in fact, my first trance dance experiences most CERTAINLY took place @ a RAVE....call me old school 
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billy boogie
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 21:07
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+1, started out as a raver as well. Have since become much more conscientious, but DO still remember my musical path.
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 22:22
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wow looked like fun times and nice place to party but also it looks like it could have been a great party with half of the line up they had on there or specific stages for different styles at least. from what I see maybe some better love could have been shown to the pioneer's like Olli Space Tribe. its sad for me to see IM with all the crowd dancing to such magical old school styles, then seeing vid's of Olli being messed with by the sound guys and having a fraction of the dance floor even acting into the music. I admire the will to make something bigger happen in the US, but having such a mix up of music on all over the different stages just seems like overstretching some peoples limits in taste and respect for true art. I've read from the raver forum sites and most of the ravers hate all the psy that was played. so why even invite that side of the community, if the have their own idea in what music should be played at festivals let them stay going to their own festivals. keep underground psy underground!! maybe there was over 1000 people there and thats great for a US party, but most of them were there for the Hype artist and not the Underground and that is sad that there was so little respect shown. onward to the future! kick up some dust!
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Alakazam
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 22:27
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On 2009-08-11 22:22, Random wrote:
I admire the will to make something bigger happen in the US, but having such a mix up of music on all over the different stages just seems like overstretching some peoples limits in taste and respect for true art. I've read from the raver forum sites and most of the ravers hate all the psy that was played. so why even invite that side of the community, if they have their own idea in what music should be played at festivals let them stay going to their own festivals. keep underground psy underground!! maybe there was over 1000 people there and thats great for a US party, but most of them were there for the Hype artist and not the Underground and that is sad that there was so little respect shown. onward to the future! kick up some dust!
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+1000!!!!!!
When I first saw the posting for this festival I was intrigued by the idea of branching out to partiers from different groups and exposing them to psy.
Now I see that this idea will not work in the US. I was so disgusted by the attitudes and actions of some of these ravers, that I almost had to resort to violence; just out of the rage that was built up inside of me from continuosly watching the blatant disrespect for the land.
But, I will have to admit, that the vibe at the party changed at around 2:00pm on Sunday.
A lot of the bisco kids/ravers were scared away by the threat of rain. And from the group that remained, I recognized or identified with at least 75% of those near the main stage as enlightened, open minded, respectful individuals.
But even after enjoying Sunday afternoon and evening; and having a good time making and sitting around the fire in the Magik Hookah Lounge, one incident around sunrise Monday, really solidified this party in my mind as a major sadness and disappointment...
A group of about 10-15 idiots were walking around screaming obscenities at the top of their lungs. Being very vulger and offensive and immature. These fools were disturbing the peaceful and restful vibe that was around; as many trancers were trying to rest and prepare for long journeys home.
This tweaker guy was walking around screaming:
"THIS IS A MUSIC FESTIVAL!!! THERE'S NO SLEEPING ALLOWED AROUND HERE!!!
EVERYBODY WAKE THE FUCK UP AND SMOKE SOME DMT!!!"
There were a few other phrases that he kept screaming that are so vulgar that I don't even feel comfortable repeating them.
Then they wandered into the Hookah Lounge area where we had a chill fire going and a lot of friends were laying nearby trying to rest.
The group proceeded to yell obscenities and act like total douche-bags. One of them even tried to put all of the wood on the fire and rearrange it to make it a huge blaze.
I had to forcefully ask them to leave. When they didn't get the hint, I had to stand up and put them in their place, and send them on their way.
This was very upsetting to me. I don't want to ever have to forcefully remove someone from a communal campfire. I don't want an adrenalin rush from coming close to violence to protect the sanctity of my friends' area while they try to rest.
If I wanted to deal with shit like that, I would make a party in North Philly or something.
Okay. My first rant is over.
I still have a review to come...
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caluu
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 23:19
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The main stage is for everyone to enjoy. The main stage was the main attraction of the party.
Non-psytrancers paid the same price you paid to see their favorite band and that is probably the reason why all of the main bands had the opportunity to show their work on the main stage regardless of the music style.
Considering you suggestion, what would be the right thing to do then? Have the other styles out of the main stage of have the psytrance out of the main stage? your idea is not bad but it would only work if both stages were the same.
I love psytrance and that is why I went. Psytrance is not the only important thing going on in the music world and unfortunately psytrance does not have enough fans to take over an event of that scale alone. |
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