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Deep mixing without sounding "crowded"

Psynthex
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Posted : Jan 29, 2010 17:57
You disagree on my post?? Or on the post before?

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Ascension
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Posted : Jan 29, 2010 19:08
Just the one I quoted. I know it's not possible for everyone to do this, I was just saying that it is possible for some and I have done it before.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Psynthex
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Posted : Jan 29, 2010 20:00
Well.. not because you knew the music.. but just because you went with the flow, with no preparation needed! That doesent mean that you knew every single track ) you just played it with no expectations ) IMO of course

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Ascension
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Posted : Jan 29, 2010 20:38
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On 2010-01-29 20:00, Psynthex wrote:
Well.. not because you knew the music.. but just because you went with the flow, with no preparation needed! That doesent mean that you knew every single track ) you just played it with no expectations ) IMO of course

cheers




Quite the contrary. I do know (at least in some way, not saying i remember 100% of all the tracks I play) all my music (dark, full-on, prog, etc). It's a bit tough to keep up with new releases as they come out, but I've been able to do this for a while without spending a lot of time listening to new music or practicing a ton. I do things like listen to some of the next track I think I want to play to make sure it'll work. If you get fast enough at matching up tracks it's easier to swap out a few until you find the right one.

I'm not trying to argue or anything, but wanted to say that this can be done.
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Psynthex
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Posted : Jan 29, 2010 23:57
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On 2010-01-29 20:38, Ascension wrote:
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On 2010-01-29 20:00, Psynthex wrote:
Well.. not because you knew the music.. but just because you went with the flow, with no preparation needed! That doesent mean that you knew every single track ) you just played it with no expectations ) IMO of course

cheers




Quite the contrary. I do know (at least in some way, not saying i remember 100% of all the tracks I play) all my music (dark, full-on, prog, etc). It's a bit tough to keep up with new releases as they come out, but I've been able to do this for a while without spending a lot of time listening to new music or practicing a ton. I do things like listen to some of the next track I think I want to play to make sure it'll work. If you get fast enough at matching up tracks it's easier to swap out a few until you find the right one.

I'm not trying to argue or anything, but wanted to say that this can be done.




Hehehe.. that doesent mean that you KNOW.. that means that you listen by the steps! Like when you tap your leg on the floor.. like when you really know when to press the play button and push the fader from the second track up! Its just a sence for playing music! Not like these dayxs "DJs" ... just to know how to beatmatch..doesent matter when they turn up the fader etc... you know how & when to unleash it! KNOWING has nothign to do with it.. but if you really know the track, because you have played it 1000 of times or more.. where is the fun than O.o??? )

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Ascension
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Posted : Feb 1, 2010 15:38
Why is it necessary for a dj to know all of his tracks 100%? If you know enough of the track to know that it will mix well with the current one that should be fine.

There's way too much theoretical talk on this section of the forum and about djing in general anyway. I just play sets the way I want to and people like them. Things will only get repetitive if people do them the same way...           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Psynthex
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Posted : Feb 1, 2010 15:54
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On 2010-02-01 15:38, Ascension wrote:
Why is it necessary for a dj to know all of his tracks 100%? If you know enough of the track to know that it will mix well with the current one that should be fine.




True!! Noone said that?? I am totally against the post someone did, about knowing your music in 100%!           Psynthex [ Vertikal Records ]
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Ascension
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Posted : Feb 1, 2010 16:14
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On 2010-02-01 15:54, Psynthex wrote:
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On 2010-02-01 15:38, Ascension wrote:
Why is it necessary for a dj to know all of his tracks 100%? If you know enough of the track to know that it will mix well with the current one that should be fine.




True!! Noone said that?? I am totally against the post someone did, about knowing your music in 100%!




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Dogon
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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 14:36
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On 2010-01-28 21:49, Psynthex wrote:
Defiently not true! A case with 150CDs / at least 1000 tracks on.. now tell me for example: You go on a party.. usually you play dark, night full on... but hey, because of a strange circumstances an organiser tells you to play in the morning at 7am.. and of course.. they would like that you do a bit full onish. And every normal, proffesional DJ is having at least 1/3 of his case of other psy trance music, beside his dark side ( so progressive or full on..or maybe even both). And of course.. you dont know the tracks really... maybe just a bit, cause you have played them 2, 3 times max...

This is defiently not a solution!

Cheers




knowing your music not necessarily playing your music at gigs, but definitely listening to the music you have in your case. So if you listen to all the music in your case, you know what you are playing!           We were born naked & grow up to become wicked.
dreadieg
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Posted : Mar 18, 2010 20:26
i have to admit, when i'm on turntables mixing the heavy shit, i do so love the instant switch.
"here's a new track mofuggers" *slams crossfader to the left* *dancefloor goes nuts*
Anyer
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Posted : Nov 15, 2010 11:06
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On 2010-01-29 20:00, Psynthex wrote:
Well.. not because you knew the music.. but just because you went with the flow, with no preparation needed! That doesent mean that you knew every single track ) you just played it with no expectations ) IMO of course

cheers




Quote:

On 2010-01-29 20:00, Psynthex wrote:
Well.. not because you knew the music.. but just because you went with the flow, with no preparation needed! That doesent mean that you knew every single track ) you just played it with no expectations ) IMO of course

cheers





Yup... I don't do That, IM COMPLETLY Sure that i know All my Tracks and the ones that the Time Adds just help me to Re-Built past Sessions (for me 1 session per Gig, and then Build a new One for the Next, or, if you have a lot of Care, have them already in your memory for Future encounters with Difficult Situations in Dancefloors, example : playing without been on the Line Up,Playing Infront Really Agressive Crowd :S, Playing in the Morning when you where Planing a Night time Session Etc...)

i Belive that Majestic DJing it's Only Achived By a lot of Dedication to the Music and To Develop Your Skills Everyday...

I agree with You psynthex, Beatmatching is not the Complete DJ Experience...Care and Love to Every Second of Mix IT'S my goal...i usually don't do Mixes Below the 2 minutes, and I try to Found enough Material in that Specific Direction,im Against Agressive Mixing, it's More to me like "Rough and Careless mixing"(IMHO, i don't Judge the Ones who do it cu'z I KNOW A TON OF People who do it...i Just Gotta Deal with this behaviour in the Decks That the Rest of my life...Goddamn... )

so,About the Crowded Stuff...Psynthex allready said it in the 3rd Post...
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Posted : Nov 15, 2010 17:02
well i try to mix the basses when the playing track is "on" but whithout full level on the volume of the entering one,in the same time(agressivly) mix the highs.after this i mix the volums pulling up the next track and after this one is full up mix the mids:this allows if you want to have the mids of the previous track full up but whith lower volume and the mids low of the next lower and slowly open them until the end of the mix so that sounds or atmospheres of the previous still playin over...never this a rule...always trust what u hear...you always have the time to do a move after a sec and not before..
mudpeople
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Posted : Nov 19, 2010 10:30
For me it depends heavily on what 2 tracks im playing. Ive had most of my music for years and played everythign a million times, it helps but isnt really necessary, if you can just match general feeling. Sometimes i like to bring in the mids of the incoming track and blend them, sometimes the highs, sometimes a little of everything tweaking both channels to avoid clashing frequencies. Depends on what sounds cool to me, i guess.... Can't really be more specific...

Oh right; i tend to mix about 2 minute blends, starting the next track right around the final blast of the previous, and when the outgoing track starts to fade bring in the other track by bits and pieces appropriately. By that i mean, not in the middle of patterns if at all possible. Sometimes it sounds cool to have the incoming maybe 1 bar off from teh outgoing tho...

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rich
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 22:27
Shiranui, if you're playing night music I assume it's faster bpms and more going on. To me it doesn't make sense to do long mixes with this style of music.
The music is fast and crazy, so mix it that way.
Otherwise, unless the tracks are compatible in at least a couple different elements, it'll sound like a DJ 'trying to create something new' and ending up being an intrusion on the flow and trip.

My oh so humble opinion



willsanquil
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 22:57
I don't understand that logic - if the music is fast and crazy and you have two fast and crazy tracks, won't mixing them sometimes result in an even CRAZIER mix

oh and for sure, fuck people trying to create something new.....            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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