looks delicious.. what do you think? I think I buy finally a legal version for me Been using a cracked 5 at home.
So far got only logic and renoise legit, but cubase I use the most when working in external studios and since version 7 it is a huge step forward in terms of development. Rocks me thinks!
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unless they improved a lot of stuff i think cubase workflow is becoming more and more outdated for electronic producers,i still use 5.5 sometimes and will use 7.5 soon but i dont really enjoy cubase anymore, just the interface turn me off ,and then come the limitations.. still a lot to do..
these days i modulate the shit out of everything in bitwig (but it s still buggy) and wonder how i could do these sound in a other daw.. maybe in ableton but same the interface turn me off
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Posted : Dec 3, 2014 20:12
Dammit ISIS even Make Cubase Now
i will buy cubase 10 cubase almost there
Bounce in place is amazing
soon they Rich All Logic Pro Features then i will move Cubase
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Imo the eq's, the whole channel strip is above all other sequencers.. not to forget the decent Synth with Grain Synthesis (was it Padshop?) and great other instruments and lots of lots of new features. The list is really long since 5 Multiband comps, multiband expanders and what not. Decent monitorings system. The whole workflow has immensely been improved. Dunno.. some features are probably in Bitwig and Ableton that it doesn't have.. but than these are not really so many just a few.Cubase was also ever for me stable as fuck. Never droped down along all my houndreds of sessions with all these clients I had since last year April, it must be more than thousand of people that I recorded or worked with using Cubase. Logic fucks down here even when I programm ES2 for some strange reason.Well, sometime atleast, and way too often.Cubase never disappointed me in this respect/stability.Or chord tracks FTW? Logic still does not have it at ten while they updated it to even more functions .this is sick.. so easy to compose like never before.
Seriously, guys try really to forget 5 and give it a go at atleast 7.5. I bet even quadrafuzz2 will set a new era for some genres I think they did a pretty good job. Cubase 5 is really oldschool meanwhile.The whole mixer in the new cubase versions up from 7.5 looks like in a spaceship
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cubase is great for sure, but now i would enjoy it more for mixing/recording bands .. it s good to produce too , plenty of producers use it with great result , but to me it feel it s from the 90s, i would like a whole refresh of it . with modern looking interface, all the plugs with the same look stuff like this..and some workflow improvment probably..i didnt check whats new there is probably great stuff..
with bitwig there is some intresting stuff,it can t compete with cubase for now in term of features but it look promising,for example i was modulating a step sequnecer/arpegiator by a other one , and that step sequencer was also modulating the fxs on a other lead tracks, it s just a little exemple of things you can do..once u start to play with these stuff and see it can lead to great sounds it s hard to go back in more limited daw in term of modulation/routings even if bitwig lack so many feature for now..i would no even recommend it as main daw yet, unless one don't bother dealing with beta testing..in some times , cubase will be like a daw for your gran pa next to bitwig but not for now...
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I really played with bitwig and uninstalled it when it came out - just the demo there was one function I really was suprised. To me it was really more of a nice plug in at an very very early stage I even remember that it droped down at the very first time I tried it.
Espescially when it comes to mastering, mixing and really professional audio engineering this seems to me like more of a plug in than anything professional.
It would take probably still a decade to reach this what Cubase already got I think.
Its more for techno and maybe modulating but not for making tracks ready for the industry.
Also what more is great about Cubase that no DAW, even Pro Tools does not have, is the monitoring and all the measurements like I mentioned in my prev post. It has measuring even for LUFS.. this is what it really takes to me, when it comes to more than just playing. A decent mixer with really helpful informations and ballistic. I doubt Bitwig got even a very small version of some great Instruments that Cubase have, or so good sounding plug-ins as well. Or I'm sure because otherwise I would already know. Imo Cubase is maybe like a grandpa but than Bitwig is still in the early stage of a kindergarden Easy going bro https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
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Posted : Dec 4, 2014 11:45
Tell Me Man Cubase Have Auto Save ?
i mean when App is Crashing ?
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yeah, the "bounce in place" feature has been with Logic since version 8, I think. And Logic does it faster, from what I could tell from this video. Regardless, this does look very good indeed and I like that they've placed effort on the overall stability and performance - this is something that I feel Cubase is perhaps some steps ahead of the competition, I've seen Cubase 5 core-2-duo based computers making much more modern macs running Logic look like crap, if you judge how they handle multiple tracks and plug-ins. I would be lying if I said otherwise... cheers
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Posted : Dec 6, 2014 03:41
looks good to me. i agree that when you want to do the midi sequencing in the box, probably ableton is better with all the max for live toys, but if thats not your thing and like hardware sequencing i think cubase is a much simpler program. to me 7,5 sounds better then 5, wondering how 8 will sound. with a bit of luck, i upgraded to 7.5 in the graceperiod, i get it free.
and smoker; yes cubase has auto save, you can put the interval how you like, like 5 mins or 20.
if you consider cubase8; check if you can find 2nd hand 7 and upgrade from there, that way saved me 3-400 euro or so.
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another great feature .. found this quote on the advanced cubase users group on facebook.
"You never need to check the frequency chart any more. You can type the note name, for example, C1 in the EQ band frequency then enter. You will get the 65.4Hz in the EQ point. First, you have to activate the EQ band 1 or 2 or 3 what ever, If you type the G5 in the EQ band 3, you immediately get the 1568 Hz point."
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yes, it's not exactly a fair game to say "logic's years ahead of the game and cubase's just catching up", simply not true.
It's got many features that others don't. And their focus on performance and stability seems to make a difference. I've been in mac land for long, and that means you're using a computer and a daw that's designed by the very same people, right? You'd expect this thing to work like a playstation, meaning that the system resources should be used to their maximum potential, right? How come, then, was I amazed to see a much older computer (then the one I own) running windows 7 with Cubase 5 (the same cracked version TimeTraveller mentioned) able to run much more tracks, with tons of plug-ins, in ways I couldn't possibly even dream of on my mac?
besides that, I'm going to say it again: Apple has shown an aggressive attitude in some things like dropping the cd so soon - I know it makes the macs look slicker and stylish, but if we're to judge the practicality of it alone, then I'd say they've rushed it BIG time; dropping the firewire platform is another one of such cases. After promoting it for so long, after watching it become a standard in so many studios, they simply decided it was time to drop support for it. But that's not all, Logic X has not only dropped support for CD rendering, it's also forced everyone to move to a 64 bit platform, leaving many perfectly able computers they've sold (I'm mainly talking mac pros here) out of the game, and also rendering many plug-ins totally useless at the same time.
Not only that, but I'm going to make another argument here: I think the new interface looks clumsy 'cause it was intentionally designed so that it only feels spacey with their new BIG resolution screens on their retina machines, or at least the 27 inch screens they're still selling (1920x1200 resolution), which is another bulk move from them. What I'm trying to imply here, of course, is that Apple is showing its aggressive marketing side with this stuff. This decisions weren't arrived at with the musician's best interest in mind, but with the aim of rendering perfectly able machines obsolete, of using their influence on the music industry to remove the CD out of the game, thus strengthening their iTunes agenda, so forth and so on....
Having all this in mind, Cubase seems like a perfect example of a product made with the musician in mind. My 2 cents.
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Posted : Dec 8, 2014 22:56
Oh, just noticed Quadrafuzz 2 is on the menu... Think the server on this forum should prepare in advance for Bass threads about this, probably should get some Google grade serves, just saying...
Nah, looks very good. Anyone getting this, report back on it please.
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Was gonna wait cause I never have time for the studio anyways but curiosty got the better of me, plus the $99 upgrade fee was a no brainer and I grabbed it yesterday!! Havent really got around to using it other than setting up a few things and a brief play but so far it looks really promising. Will report back after a proper sitting
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Posted : Dec 11, 2014 22:38
thanks! keep us posted! they mentioned it would load bigger projects faster, and load less cpu for same amount of tracks now. Would be interesting for you to test this and let us know with one of your projects
Been using a cracked 5 at home.
