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gaspard
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Posted : Sep 26, 2006 10:57
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You would be suprised to know that in many countries,and especially USA,many people accused of rape or sexual harrasment have been found non guilty or received much less punishment because of what you just claimed to be more or less an irony or even a joke.The judge decided that the sexual harrasment victims dressed or acted in such a way that caused to themselves the attack by other people,thats why in Parahalu's case i insist that half the blame belongs to Adam because with his behavior and decisions he caused this sad situation to himself.
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this does not surprise me, but i think you and those judges are very sick individuals....
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DETOX
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Posted : Sep 26, 2006 14:22
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On 2006-09-26 02:12, vegetal wrote:
Your now saying that rape victims have only themselfs to blame.
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Vegetal mate if thats what you understood from my words then obviously you should refresh your english and spend a little more time when reading my posts in order to understand them better.
You said that i claimed that rape victims have ONLY themselves to blame.
Sorry but what i said is that SOME rape victims,SOMETIMES are ALSO MORE OR LESS responsible for what happened to them just like i feel that Adam from Parahalu is also more or less responsible for what happened to him (which was very bad indeed) because he showed trust to someone that didnt deserve it from the beggining.
I can accept any critisism and any kind of debate by anyone in this forum but i will not tolerate alteration of my words because i consider such tactics really cheap and low.You wanna debate with me?Good bring it on BUT please dont try to create a bad impression on me by changing the meaning in what i say.
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DETOX
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Posted : Sep 26, 2006 14:26
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On 2006-09-26 10:57, gaspard wrote:
this does not surprise me, but i think you and those judges are very sick individuals....
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Well either that dear Gaspard or just some people that perceive and understand reality and modern world different than you do.
Every coin has two sides you see
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KakoOlalaJwal
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Sep 26, 2006 14:40
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On 2006-09-26 14:26, DETOX wrote:
Well either that dear Gaspard or just some people that perceive and understand reality and modern world different than you do.
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The conservative right-wing way and the socialist left-wing way, yes.. But please we'll let the sexual frustration of the conservatives out of this discussion, will we ?
It's bad luck for Para Halu, and now the Serbian people must learn some lessons and try to brighten up again the visage of their scene, but the rest here is irrelevant.. I mean politics and tricky connections with other terrible situations.
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Sep 26, 2006 22:28
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You said that i claimed that rape victims have ONLY themselves to blame.
Sorry but what i said is that SOME rape victims,SOMETIMES are ALSO MORE OR LESS responsible for what happened to them just like i feel that Adam from Parahalu is also more or less responsible for what happened to him (which was very bad indeed) because he showed trust to someone that didnt deserve it from the beggining. |
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Holy F*&%ing S*#t I cannot believe you just wrote that. The correct answer is: No rape is cool, ever, for any reason.
Your views are not at all that of the modern world, they are more like the Middle Ages. Adding the world SOME and MORE OR LESS does not help very much.
Even in the most extreme possible case, if a woman is being evil and trying to goad a man into trying to rape her so that she can screw him over later, then she is the evil one, RIGHT UP UNTIL THE INSTANT THE MAN FALLS FOR IT AND TRIES TO FORCE HIMSELF and then he becomes the unquestioned bad guy, nothing else to it.
Men are responsible for controlling their own behavior, saying that women "ask for it" is as big an insult to men as it is to women because it implies that we are not capable of self control.
It's a good thing for you that you don't like psytrance women anyway because I can't imagine you getting much psypussy with views like that (If you do I'll be terribly disappointed in the psywomen, and our roles will be reversed hahhahahaha)
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vegetal
Vegetal/Peacespect
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Posted : Sep 27, 2006 00:22
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Vegetal mate if thats what you understood from my words then obviously you should refresh your english and spend a little more time when reading my posts in order to understand them better.
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First of all im not your "mate" second i have no problems understanding it, Maybe you need a course in linguistics and rhetoric.
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Sorry but what i said is that SOME rape victims,SOMETIMES are ALSO MORE OR LESS responsible for what happened to them just like i feel that Adam from Parahalu is also more or less responsible for what happened to him (which was very bad indeed) because he showed trust to someone that didnt deserve it from the beggining.
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Ok then, you say "SOME rape victims,SOMETIMES are ALSO MORE OR LESS responsible for what happened to them" Still doesn´t justify violence against women, maybe it does to you but then we can all understand why you won´t get any pussy the normal way like the rest of us.
So Just because the legal system states that the victim caused the incident does that mean that its the right way to go! Since when did the legal system become bulletproof.
If i call a guy a idiot should i get shot in the head just because of it? And the guy gets away with it because i provoked him in the first place. No need to bring in details that the guy is a total psycho? Just like a rapeist and should be locked up in a padded room with a strap-jacket.
No man or women should be getting raped just because you like to dress in a certain way.
But with your ideals then i can justify my actions against you by punching you in the face "because with his behavior and decisions he caused this sad situation to himself". Cheers "Mate"
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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Sep 27, 2006 01:43
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how about you guys stop tryng to place the blame in hypothetic rape cenarios and stick to the subjet?
This Forum is about music! -and (according to the F.A.Q.) not political debates/statements what so ever, which it would lead to if we had to respond to what they, as You write "in many countries,and especially USA" consider moraly and legaly legit.
The point is long lost.
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 7, 2006 00:31
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On 2006-09-26 22:28, Psycosmo wrote:
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You said that i claimed that rape victims have ONLY themselves to blame.
Sorry but what i said is that SOME rape victims,SOMETIMES are ALSO MORE OR LESS responsible for what happened to them just like i feel that Adam from Parahalu is also more or less responsible for what happened to him (which was very bad indeed) because he showed trust to someone that didnt deserve it from the beggining. |
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Holy F*&%ing S*#t I cannot believe you just wrote that. The correct answer is: No rape is cool, ever, for any reason.
Your views are not at all that of the modern world, they are more like the Middle Ages. Adding the world SOME and MORE OR LESS does not help very much.
Even in the most extreme possible case, if a woman is being evil and trying to goad a man into trying to rape her so that she can screw him over later, then she is the evil one, RIGHT UP UNTIL THE INSTANT THE MAN FALLS FOR IT AND TRIES TO FORCE HIMSELF and then he becomes the unquestioned bad guy, nothing else to it.
Men are responsible for controlling their own behavior, saying that women "ask for it" is as big an insult to men as it is to women because it implies that we are not capable of self control.
It's a good thing for you that you don't like psytrance women anyway because I can't imagine you getting much psypussy with views like that (If you do I'll be terribly disappointed in the psywomen, and our roles will be reversed hahhahahaha)
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totally agreed..
no more exposure recs for me.. |
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Soul Kontakt
Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Nov 7, 2006 01:12
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moment
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Posted : Nov 7, 2006 04:44
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This is a sickest story I've ever heard. Thank you man for warning us and for sharing your unfortunate storry. Hope all is well now and no one will play for those criminal bastards.
Almost same thing happen in NYC few weeks ago with 6362Metaforce organizers
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/97925/forum/28
p.s. don't mind Detox, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Just wants to be noticeable. |
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Filzbiber
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Posted : Nov 7, 2006 14:52
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This just proves: Psytrance might not be dead, but the spirit of goa is nearly decayed already.
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mr_sparx
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Posted : Nov 7, 2006 15:02
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thats probably the most shocking story i have ever heard and both DETOX and Psycosmo make good points from opposite sides. I agree with psycomo with regards to this being solely the fault of shady orgaisers but DETOX is also right with regards to having some sort of survival instinct and making sure that you arent being screwed over
Sadly thesse guys will probably just change their production name and continue to rob artists. I think the serbian party people should make an effort to shut these guys down as it puts their scene in a bad light
again that is the scariest story i have ever heard
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Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 15, 2006 08:38
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when i first read this thread, the initial post, i thought well the guy partly has himself to blame.
there are situations that you make worse by the actions or behaviour you take... you better know what you are willing to pack before you travel!
there are lots of nutters out there..
Adam should have known better and brought his Gun!
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psytheriatsunami
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Posted : Nov 18, 2006 06:58
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I FEEL SO PISSED OFF AFTER READ THIS STORY! |
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SHAMIL
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Posted : Nov 21, 2006 14:15
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