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Copy or "Cover" ?

"one of the tribe"


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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 17:01
'sssssuuuppp ppl

so here i am listening to intergalactic's new album .. put it on my soundsytem and press play ... and then i'm like - "shit ,did i put astrix cd on the player ??" ..i got confused,really.

the thing is .. "The Future" has 2 tracks that are *exact* copies of astrix tunes.
if i'm not wrong:

track#1: Intergalactic - Happy Zone
copy of : Astrix - Sex Style

track#8: Intergalactic - Armstrong
copy of : Astrix - Underbeat

Please guys ,give a listen to that and then think about this :

Its basically the same bassline for both tracks,the synths are different but the rythm of the melodie is pratically the same or very similar ... SO .. my impression is that mr.intergalactic did literally what everyone always complain on the latest psytrance tracks ... he got the success formula of astrix and changed it a little bit by using his sounds... he "adapted" the track to his style,made it look more intergalactic.
The question IS :

Was he just lazy and un-creative and made those tracks just to fill the empty space left to complete his album OR(this is the real question) was he trying to do a DIFFERENT kind of rmx , a real COVER version of those tracks?

and by COVER version i mean getting a track u like and making it just like the original ,but with your own sounds and characteristics ... just like when a newbie rockband sings a tune from the rolling stones or pink floyd ... they are making a cover version , but that version is twisted in their own way,in their own style.

ok .. so will u please think about this and answer accordingly hhahahah 'cuz after noticing that ,lets say,"little" similarity between the tracks, i was laughing my ass off .. just couldn't believe they were so similar ...
think about it !
cheers

ºnamasteº

Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 17:05
yea.. totaly agree with u!

i thought of the same thing.. i´ve heard this before but this was extreme!

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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 17:55
have you ever considered that both astrix and intergalactic took the samples or even the midi (notes for the melody) from the same place independantly?
this happens alot. i work out at a gym that plays all kinds of electronic dance music except for psytrance. i have heard so many "rip offs" - at least that what i called them at first... i mean entire riffs and entire samples, vocals and much more. after some time i changed my view and considered the fact that it just happens that psy trance producers use the same sample cd's and fit the same sounds in their own tracks.... with their own kik/base combo... i mean - it is dance music after all... nothing new under the sun.           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Unique(Shlomi)
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 21:32
they really the same thing.

but anyway if its the same basslline and he take it to new place with his sound and his style thats ok, except the bassline you have new story.
Shaqattack
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 08:51
just heard the 1st track
its Identical to sex style!!!!!!

u cant ignore the similarity..but then...maybe what surrender said could be the cause and not the copying factor....

but still when the track was finished dint the guy see the similarity...prolly he hadnt heard sex style then...so he should be given a chance to bail outta this one..

peacE

Eliran Maimone
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 09:21
Hey i didn't heared so far i'll and tell u
But there is no surprise here lotf of artist copy the same idias of other artist it's not just from astrix u know

but if u say all
i must to hear and tell u
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a3k
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 11:31
i liked the cover stuff           ...
kakha
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 13:55
well its a cover not a copy.
and i think its done well, anyway if u dont like it dont listen to it!
i liked astrix as well as intergalactic , so i see no harm done here, its my opinion.


keep on raving
Ov3rdos3


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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 14:28
my point has been proven.

all isreali trance sounds the same.

but now its been upgraded too.

all israeli trance IS the same.
Sputer
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 14:55
Quote:

On 2005-04-20 17:55, Surrender wrote:
have you ever considered that both astrix and intergalactic took the samples or even the midi (notes for the melody) from the same place independantly?





artists takes midi {notes for the melody} and use it on thier trax ???? never heard about that.. All this fulon style based on melodys.. so if they even not create thier own mellodys so WTF ??

and anyway.. this SEX STYLE clone not just by the melody.. u can take the Intergalatic track and put in "on" the astrix track and u'll see all the building is symmetrical..

lame. !
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Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 16:05
look astrix is great composer but without his own exclusive ideas...nice mastering and sound quality at his tracks but no inspiration.He has ready a pattern and he just changes the midi melodies and oups a "new track"...That's why the music is stucked...with all this crap with no creativity and evolution who supposed to be the best artists ever and bullshit...           www.myspace.com/tasos_notrea
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Surrender
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 16:11
Quote:

On 2005-04-21 14:28, Ov3rdos3 wrote:
my point has been proven.

all isreali trance sounds the same.

but now its been upgraded too.

all israeli trance IS the same.


yes, you win dude... now what?
generalizations are so much fun arent they? i love taking one example and applying it to an entire country - it is the mature and wise thing to do.
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Surrender
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 16:14
Quote:

On 2005-04-21 14:55, Sputer wrote:
artists takes midi {notes for the melody} and use it on thier trax ???? never heard about that.. All this fulon style based on melodys.. so if they even not create thier own mellodys so WTF ??



not defending these guys here and they very well may have copied. all im saying is that if they went to some internet site and downloaded a midi for something and it happend to be the same..... then its the same....           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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VertigOA
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 20:59
Quote:

On 2005-04-21 16:14, Surrender wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-04-21 14:55, Sputer wrote:
artists takes midi {notes for the melody} and use it on thier trax ???? never heard about that.. All this fulon style based on melodys.. so if they even not create thier own mellodys so WTF ??



not defending these guys here and they very well may have copied. all im saying is that if they went to some internet site and downloaded a midi for something and it happend to be the same..... then its the same....





So thats how people write songs?
Download premade midi files and add there own instruments. LAME

So tell me what site I can download premade songs from. This is IDENTICAL in every way,, even the builds.
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Yuli
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Posted : Apr 22, 2005 13:07
Everyone wants to be a 'star' to get famous, go to perform overseas alot and have a lot of groopies.

Unfortunately not many ppl understand that to make it happen one should make things from the heart, and bring some new flavour into music. Crowd mostly is a little blind, but not totally blind - imitations are usually noticed.           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
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