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beatmapping! Tips and tricks?

Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 15, 2011 23:51:17
Hi Djs! I have a question about easy ways to beatmap tracks!

And maybe a little background info on this, various programs to do it with and what separate this from mixing with CDs and beatmixing.

The ting is i have a problem in Traktor to change tempo without stuttering and artifacts, it just sounds bad and strange and not at all workable, and this is just 1-4 bpm difference, nothing extreme.

So what should i use that is easy to beatmap my tracks and tracks i want to dj with

Im using laptop, Traktor and Korg nanoknotrol
Dennis the menace
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Posted : Jan 16, 2011 10:28
try to switch master tempo off. it might help.
If beatgridding was the issue try searching youtube. There are tons of tutorials on that
Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 16, 2011 13:00
Thanks Dennis, i just tried Traktor S4 and it seems like no problem, but this is on a stronger machine, must try it on my 1.6ghz

But i will test on the old version what you said just to see if it works!

Btw S4 seems like a wicked version, i could easy use it to make somekind of semi live setup, makes for lots of freedom to trigger clips and loops, and hooking up a synth or drummachine to this setup and play live would be sweet, it would be cool if Traktor had a built in midi sequencer tempo synced.. wow

Jacob Goadream
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Posted : Jan 16, 2011 17:57
I'm on traktor pro and have no audio problems when griding tracks. As far as I know Traktor only moves the grid when you change it, not change the audio file itself like Abelton and warping. Make sure Master tempo is off and the key button is not active as that has caused major problems with audio quality....
Jacob Goadream
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Posted : Jan 16, 2011 18:02
Are you trying to change the tempo up or down thru the gridding process???
Dennis the menace
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Posted : Jan 16, 2011 18:24
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On 2011-01-16 13:00, Freeflow wrote:
Thanks Dennis, i just tried Traktor S4 and it seems like no problem, but this is on a stronger machine, must try it on my 1.6ghz

But i will test on the old version what you said just to see if it works!

Btw S4 seems like a wicked version, i could easy use it to make somekind of semi live setup, makes for lots of freedom to trigger clips and loops, and hooking up a synth or drummachine to this setup and play live would be sweet, it would be cool if Traktor had a built in midi sequencer tempo synced.. wow





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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 16, 2011 19:10
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On 2011-01-16 18:02, Jacob Goadream wrote:
Are you trying to change the tempo up or down thru the gridding process???



No, i havent done anything with beat grid. I just played the tracks and when i beat synced tracks the one that gets changed in tempo gets artifacts, stuttering and clicks, so i thought that beat grid would make this problem disappear.

Thanks for your help guys. i will look at master tempo, i am pretty sure that the key button was off. ill try and see what happens.

Dennis thats sounds very cool, its a wicked feature.
Dennis the menace
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Posted : Jan 16, 2011 19:13
sounds like a master tempo issue
Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 16, 2011 19:15
aha now i see the difference with abletons method where you insert beat markers to the audio file? is that like the pioneer program does? Is this more reliable when setting up loop-points.
Jacob Goadream
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Posted : Jan 17, 2011 03:05
If you beatgrid your tracks properly in traktor your loop points will be spot on. After you get the grids the way you like them turn the "snap to" button on. Find and set loop points... Boom your in buisness!
Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 17, 2011 14:38
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On 2011-01-17 03:05, Jacob Goadream wrote:
If you beatgrid your tracks properly in traktor your loop points will be spot on. After you get the grids the way you like them turn the "snap to" button on. Find and set loop points... Boom your in buisness!



Thanks man
i think i start to understand this better!
will do my homework
Basilisk
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Posted : Jan 28, 2011 03:47
Beatgrids FTW. They can be a bit tricky though... it is sometimes hard to hear that the tracks are slightly out of phase and you may feel confident since the software is "doing it for you" but your ears are still the best audio equipment you own... be sure you know how to use them.

This is one respect in which I feel us former vinyl and CD DJs have an advantage on the laptop... through years of hard work we know when something doesn't sound right. It doesn't take long to figure out what a trainwreck sounds like... but those slight differences in phasing or phrasing take an expert ear.
Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 28, 2011 15:23
Basilisk - True

This i why i thought i should get a classic Dj setup to practice on, but i cant afford it.

Infact i followed your tips and bought a Korg nanokontrol, iv had some nice us of it both for creating and as a Dj controller, but one question, do you use the scenes on it? i did my own midi mappings on it and its real fun.

i have a lot of practice to do. Would like to learn this stuff better.. But its hard to have time for both music creation and learning to dj
willsanquil
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Posted : Jan 28, 2011 22:27
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i have a lot of practice to do. Would like to learn this stuff better.. But its hard to have time for both music creation and learning to dj




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Jacob Goadream
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Posted : Jan 29, 2011 19:48
I think the most important thing I've learned with regards to setting beatgrids,,, A good set of headphones is a must...! I set the grid on 1 track then match all other tracks to that "master" track.....
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