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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 16:21
Hi, friends!!
Not everybody is an artist 'as is'. I think you can make good or bad music but, please, make your own things. This is the way to be respected and honest. There are some 'artists' like Digital Tribe (Shlomi Dahan and Oshri Haziza) from Israel that they are not honest and also cannot be respected. To take arrangements and melodies from others are the most ugliest. And also not complying the agreements what the artists make. If you meet with Digital Tribe in the future, work with him if you wish, but maybe one day you can find a track in some compilation or album that you will recognize and you will not be able to remember when you sold it, inmediately, you will realise that this track has been stolen. And, of course, if you care so much about money may also you will never get it, because they want the whole money for them.
Next, I am going to tell you my story with them, and especially with Shlomi:
One year ago, Shlomi sent me a Cubase project to work on it together. Ok, I accept. He had made about two minutes, then my partner and me continued and, of course, we made our own arrangements, melodies, we looked for new samples and all of that. I sent him again. Shlomi told me some parts he don't like. Well, if you don't like, change it and make other better arrangements. That's the normal way of working between producers. From that point, he never sent me again nothing new in this track and we was forgetting this project. I thought he had not liked and may this track never will be released. Nothing happens, sometimes you don't make good tracks.
One year before, ie, now. I found on a coming soon compilation a track from Digital Tribe with the EXACTLY same name we ( me and my partner) thought for the track. These guys has sold the track ( with the arrangements they made, but with some of the sounds we putted in and melodies we created ) and Shlomi didn't tell me nothing about he sold the track, also my partner and me are not in the authors. These guys have stolen my ideas and they have made a new version. Shlomi must think I am silly and I will never recognize my arrangements or something like this.
I know there are more people that have had some kind of trouble with Digital Tribe. But, may I am the first one that have had enough with them. Right now, I have erased Shlomi from my contacts and I will never work with them anymore in my life.
What I wrote here is a warning for all the honest producers in the trance scene. If you do not want problems, do not work with this kind of 'artists'. At the beginning, Shlomi will tell you he will help you and it is possible he try to put her name in some of your tracks without they work on it and, of course, if he sell the track to a label and get some money, you do not worry...You will never get your part, because he would never tell you he get paied. But, for me and my partner, the money is not too much important when you feel somebody is stoling you. And the most important, you realise he never was your friend.
Be careful with Digital Tribe!
Mad Purple State
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 16:37
Good stuff man... you guys gotta be careful of these stolers...
and I can see you´ve started -3 topics... way to go brotha!
Hope justice is served.
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 17:05
i hope the justice fall in the head of this guys, really bad way to work Digital tribe.
its hard to see but sometimes the ego is the only way to move this unreal artists, make your own music and stop stole other artists work.
Xolvexs
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 17:14
another one bites the dust
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extazya
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 17:17
yeah shlomi is a big liar , couple of years ago he tried to pull the trick on me too by saying he will get me play on unrealistic line ups...
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 18:47
Sad story...
Thanks aum for sharing it in such an honest and educated way. That's the way professionals act.
Respect!
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 19:23
yes i totally agree with full_on with the way you stated your mind in a very civilized way ...
Minimal Monster
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 19:30
Hey Aum, i searched for Digital Tribe on Psyshop, there's a debut album they released on dec. 2007, track number 7 called
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On 2008-02-13 19:30, RajaRan wrote:
Hey Aum, i searched for Digital Tribe on Psyshop, there's a debut album they released on dec. 2007, track number 7 called
"Aum Project, Digital Tribe - On Time"
is it the right one? just curious about it..
No, bro!
This track is right, the only that i didn't liked so much in this release is that Digital Tribe don't specificate so much about the colaborations. I'm talking about a track that will be released coming soon also from Magma records. I don't want to write the name, yet. The guy who makes the compilation don't want i tell anything about, in fact he didn't know that the track is not only made by Digital Tribe. As the compilator are my friend i respect him and when the release will be out everybody will know what is the track.
Thanks for your support, friends!
diogo_c
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 00:25
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On 2008-02-13 18:47, full_on wrote:
Sad story...
Thanks aum for sharing it in such an honest and educated way. That's the way professionals act.
Respect!
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 01:11
I want to add one more thing:
The label Magma Records is NOT the guilty and his label manager Nicola have helped me also with this ugly issue. He is sorry very much about it and he will try it never happens anymore least in his label.
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 21:52
we see here only One side of this story
but,
i'm think that we the artist and others need to wait some time
and find out if we will get here the seconed side
of this story from the artist that you guys all ready sent to the bootchers!
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 22:13
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On 2008-02-14 21:52, Dj Glitch wrote:
we see here only One side of this story
but,
i'm think that we the artist and others need to wait some time
and find out if we will get here the seconed side
of this story from the artist that you guys all ready sent to the bootchers!
Of course, I can't wait he reply.
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 04:31
Well, i dont know the story personally, but all i can say is that im really sorry for you man.
I did heard a lot of stories regarding your thread and i really think your'e right for sharing your stories and i hope other artists after you wont eat the dust that you did. (Another one bites the dust :S?)
Over all, i think theres a lot of Untalented artists in the scene that are just looking for shortcuts to get to top even if it means lieng, back stabbing and climbing all over other artists.
What you did was right and i admire your courage to bring this thing on to the table so everybody will see and learn.
And ofcourse, everything i said here has nothing to do with DT .
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 12:45
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On 2008-02-15 04:31, Freedom Fighters wrote:
Well, i dont know the story personally, but all i can say is that im really sorry for you man.
I did heard a lot of stories regarding your thread and i really think your'e right for sharing your stories and i hope other artists after you wont eat the dust that you did. (Another one bites the dust :S?)
Over all, i think theres a lot of Untalented artists in the scene that are just looking for shortcuts to get to top even if it means lieng, back stabbing and climbing all over other artists.
What you did was right and i admire your courage to bring this thing on to the table so everybody will see and learn.
And ofcourse, everything i said here has nothing to do with DT .
I recognize my mistake and, of course, this will never happen, at least, with Digital Tribe. These guys have made me a few rare things in all the tracks we released together. I can forgive but, anyway, nothing will change.
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