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!! BE AWARE !!

Boombaata

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Posts :  6
Posted : Nov 24, 2004 23:34
Hi everyone,

I would like to put a sign on this forum to make people aware of a time waster.
I have been in the movement for the past 9 years as a dj first and for 5 years as a graphic designer. I worked with various labels from Flying Rhino (rip), Creamcrop, Alchemy, Dragonfly...to name a few and recently Glowing Flame from Macedonia.
I have done some work for their logo, Agni Hotra CD, and a setup for the Setherian Album 6 months ago who still has not been paid for after many emails and phone calls. The head of the Label, Marko, is an absolute time waster and totally on the wrong side. Telling lies after lies (emails to proove it), from : "the money has been wired", then 4 weeks later, "the bank needed an invoivce so it has not been throught"... Same with the invoice in hand by the way. Another one was "I did a western union transaction" and then gave a bullshit number of 15 digit while their reference stops at 10 digit... I could writte a book with them all.
He is avoiding all emails and comunication, and for being totally open here it is not about the money anymore but about the principle. This guy do not even have the courtesy to give a straight answer and a piece of his mind.

From all the records labels I have been working with, I have never encounter that, and especially not from a starting label which has been helped a lot with several aspects of visuals but also contacts and music!

Anyway, if you ever have to deal with this label, my advice will be, be extremely cautious or do not deal with at any cost.
Psypepper
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  16
Posts :  133
Posted : Nov 24, 2004 23:46
It is awful... People become slaves to money and a devil...
And it in a trance... Awfully...

Justin Chaos
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  3086
Posted : Nov 25, 2004 01:54
Can you see how important this forum is???
Let's wait and see what Marko has to say but...I tend to believe what Boombata it's saying.
          My fake plants died, because I did not pretend to water them.
Boombaata

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Posts :  6
Posted : Nov 25, 2004 02:25
Hi again, I just chat with Marko on msn after almost 2 months without news. I decided to post the msn chat below :

Baata says: (11:59:34 pm)
   Hi there

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (11:59:47 pm)
   hi hi

Baata says: (12:00:06 am)
   it was about time.

Baata says: (12:01:34 am)
   So what's up?

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:01:51 am)
   who are you dude

Baata says: (12:02:35 am)
   Someone who try to reach you for the past month and a half.

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:02:56 am)
   I dont know

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:02:58 am)
   the name

Baata says: (12:04:40 am)
   If I am telling you 200 Pounds, bank transfer, invoice and a non valid western union reference number, is that help?

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:05:15 am)
   hi man

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:05:22 am)
   i soo your e mail

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:05:24 am)
   now

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:05:43 am)
   i dont know way is invalid number

Baata says: (12:05:57 am)
   I called you 1000 times and spoke to your brother, gabi...

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:05:59 am)
   i will go to check tomorow at my hom,e bfor the paper

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:06:09 am)
   they dident told me

Baata says: (12:06:40 am)
   Once your borther came to you to wake you up man!

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:06:53 am)
   i dont remember

Baata says: (12:07:00 am)
   Of course.

Baata says: (12:08:55 am)
   So what is the score, as you said after giving me the number of the western union that you will do another transfer the following day. But I have not receive any news the following day.

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:09:30 am)
   i comingg on internet after 1 week you will get your money

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:09:40 am)
   i going to my place i will see the number

Baata says: (12:10:34 am)
   I guess we will have to wait and see again.

Baata says: (12:10:53 am)
   Isn't it ?

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:12:13 am)
   what to wait man

MarKo@glowingflame.com says: (12:12:16 am)
   relax

Baata says: (12:14:13 am)
   Marko it has been 6 months and you asking me to relax! Maybe "Relax" is a cause of all of this or maybe not? As said we will have to wait and see.

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It ends up like it.
I will post any update I will get.
To follow...
daniel duarte
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  219
Posted : Nov 25, 2004 03:08
lol... well, he chats like a bastard..

I can imagine how frustrated you feel mate.

Pacience. Have any friends in the law business? A lawyer would do wonders, just by emailing the guy.. It's like coffee, they imediatly wake up.

If I can help let me know.. PM me.

Bye.
Sr.Lancelot


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Posts :  68
Posted : Nov 25, 2004 03:12
for a small "SETUP" for the Setherian album you charged 200 pounds??? its costed 400 dollars???
in what planet do you live Boombaata?? maybe Hollywood or Beverly Hills?
you got be kidding! for sure is some joke! if was me i would not exitate in not pay this as well, 400 dollars for a setup is pure exploration, something is smelling wrong here!
but i also want to hear some explanation from glowing flame crew ...
Boombaata

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Posts :  6
Posted : Nov 25, 2004 03:24
Firstly I have not mentionned a small set up, as I have to rework the entire thing.
Secondly you do not know the work that was requiere on that so please do not assume without knowing!
Boombaata

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Posted : Nov 25, 2004 03:50
Thanks for your kindness Daniel.
Glowing Flame Records
Glowing Flame Records

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Posted : Nov 25, 2004 04:32
hI to all people.
Thanks Cyril.Greate topic my friend.
this what you writing for me and my label is to much.
All the time you are payd.
This time it wos a delay.Big sory for this.
And after I sand you the money from western union becouse the delay to be faster..and we wos honestly stone and you got the wrong control number:)What to do all the people do mestakes;)
I have so many people who own me money..even for a 1 year i speaking for people who work with music:Distributors,shops...I try to find them i cant and time is pasing,Bank Problems,no money...What to do.. but i newer write something bad for them...Becouse they are paying me like i paying you! so some time im payd on time some time is some fucking big delays like i write bifore.We are all 1 we dont need to make fight!!!!Check your document from the western union when you will pick up the money to see when the money wos sand.
All the best.

Marko
BoOMs!-'-!

Boombaata

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Posts :  6
Posted : Nov 25, 2004 05:02
Yes people do mistake and it is human, but some do all the time.
We all have our problems and what is relevant to you might not be for me and the other way round.
Obviously the post did speed up the communication, and I will post an update as soon as I will receive further news tomorrow... Hopefully to end up this matter.
Surrender
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Nov 25, 2004 05:08
glad to see this not flare up, but it must be locked as isratrance policy does not encourage "dirty laundry" such as this, there is no way to know which side is telling the truth, neither do we know most of the facts even if they are "listed" here from any side.           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
http://myspace.com/gadimon
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IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Nov 26, 2004 07:38
i unlocked this post only because there is a final resolve to it about to be posted.

anyone other then Boombaata who posts will be deleted.
the thread will then be locked again once he posts.
          "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
http://myspace.com/gadimon
Boombaata

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Posts :  6
Posted : Nov 26, 2004 21:39
Hi Everyone,

Thanks for unlocking the thread to conclude this story.

Well the internet works wonders, as Marko kindly paid me a first amout yesterday and today I received the other sum as he finally said he would after this post.

So to conclude this thread I will say that everything is back to order and that is why I asked the moderator to reopen the post to be as fair as possible towards the GF Crew as a fight was not the intention of the initial subject.

With regards.


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IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Nov 26, 2004 22:21
          "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
http://myspace.com/gadimon
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IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Nov 29, 2004 05:39
re opened for one final comment by Mar.Ko only.           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
http://myspace.com/gadimon
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