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zuko=)
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 18:40:05
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Friends! =)
than will advise to process a bass kick and Percussion
I in most cases use only iZotope Ozone, I cut frequencies (I do not know as correctly to be expressed):rotate:
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 19:24
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zuko=)
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 19:33
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There it is too much information, it is very heavy to me to read and realise it (in vain I at school badly English learnt);) |
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sideFXed
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 04:50
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download voxengo span... Investigate. Analyze... Then stop to use it and train your ears.
Choose your sounds for kick and bass carefully. Fix it at the start (patch or sample for the basspart, sample for the kickdrum part) and actually everything.
play kick solo, listen/look at frequencies.
play bass solo, listen/look again
think.
use eq on kick and bass (if needed). That's what you might be doing with izotope. (You might want to try a simple equalizer inside your host or as a plugin) Always check back while both kick and bass are playing. Be gentle first, think a lot, try a lot. Keep your track in mind... it has to sound well with other things like leads too.
Use your panning wisely. Center kick and bass, atleast the lower frequencies (you can use stereo effects on bass if used correctly)
Now you should have a good sound rolling...
you can further spice it up with sidechain (google sidechain tutorial), compression, limiting, gating, bitcrushing and whatnot 
don't forget to make a song around this structure... the best bassline can't rescue a bad track.
don't fall too much into a routine. Start with other elements like a melody and make your kick/bassline combo later from time to time.
Make and listen to other styles of sound and don't get too cought up in this whole kick and bassline drama...
These are all suggestions and are ment to be broken on a regular basis.
Oh and last but not least... have fun doing your stuff.
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soulfood
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 05:27
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Get your kick and bass sounding as nice as possible without processing. Then listen them very carefully and then use your own judgement to change frequencies where the kick and bass don't seem to match.
Experiment your arse off with this, but not when you are writing a track. When writing just do the best you can and move on.
when you have finished the composition THEN you can start re-EQing to make your bottom end suite the track and make the top end of your kick have the best punch.
It's very important that you do not change much of the original source material before you know what gaps it needs to fit into.
Be patient with yourself. There's no rush to be the best you can be and no amount of tips and tricks can substitute your own hard earned experience.
P.S.
I also highly recommend checking your work in headphones as well as speakers, especially when working with the low end. |
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zuko=)
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 12:10
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http://ifolder.ru/9813956
Well here has made so used only eq that will tell? close HH does not approach, but has added for more volume sounding 
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gutter
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 12:25
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well its sound nice for a starter , i would suggest to try a different kick cause the one you use is too "boxy" sounding and whenever hits it sounds like its stops the flow, try a bigger/fat with longer sustain kick, it will make more rolling effect and would fit better imho
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zuko=)
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 12:35
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On 2008-12-30 12:25, gutter wrote:
well its sound nice for a starter , i would suggest to try a different kick cause the one you use is too "boxy" sounding and whenever hits it sounds like its stops the flow, try a bigger/fat with longer sustain kick, it will make more rolling effect and would fit better imho
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So I have made it as an example, I prefer kick in the form of click
(I do not know as correctly to be expressed ) here on similarity of the such more
http://ifolder.ru/9814282
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Chemogen
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 12:51
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Cut the kick at around 500hz to remove boxiness, and maybe again somewhere around 250 - 350hz to let the bass breath a bit. |
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Deranger
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 13:57
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On 2008-12-30 12:51, Chemogen wrote:
Cut the kick at around 500hz to remove boxiness, and maybe again somewhere around 250 - 350hz to let the bass breath a bit.
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+1
i fucked my ears untill i made good kicks.you need to experience a lot with eq to shape your kick+use fade in/out to shape the attack of the kick and its tale.btw i suggest you use BazzIsm for a good kick to start with,and then process it. |
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 14:42
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some tips : all the sounds that gonna be played alone in the track have to sound very good ,so eq them in solo and make the other sounds fit to them .means eq your kick to make it sound great in solo first, then eq the bassline with the kick playing ,it dosen t matter if the bassline sux when played in solo but for the kick it have to sound good (cause it s played with not much sound at the same time sometimes,so if it sound bad you ll notice it very easily ) |
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Sonica
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 15:10
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when looking at analyzer such as voxengo span and others, what iz it you are ment to be investigating exacly? because ive always just used my ears.
wat iz it im suppose to be looking for?
freqencies overlap? yeh! what the fuk does that look like? becuase at the end of the day there both bass.
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Chemogen
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 16:40
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Use it in comparison to a reference track. |
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Tryptagon
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 16:43
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It might be a help to get a chart over notes and their freq. |
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Sonica
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 17:39
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i have a freQ converter |
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