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Alien Bug
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Posted : Mar 10, 2012 23:12
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 21, 2012 23:43
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On 2012-03-10 22:07, makus wrote:
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On 2012-03-10 17:43, Alien Bug wrote:
tip: many producers use headphones for work with bass
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really? i never was able to make any at least average kick or bass in hp.
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i dont have much choice at the moment anyways haaaa. its all possable
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 00:58
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On 2012-03-10 22:07, makus wrote:
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On 2012-03-10 17:43, Alien Bug wrote:
tip: many producers use headphones for work with bass
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really? i never was able to make any at least average kick or bass in hp.
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Me neither, I use headphones sometimes to check on higher frequencies (1000hz and up) but they just don't translate accurately enough in the low end or even low mids...
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Equilizyme
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 02:09
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i use only headphones b/c thats all i have. I dont recommend it. everytime i listen to my stuff on big speakers it sounds inferior. i go to my friends house who has monitors and pa system in a semi-treated room. AN ENTIRE DIMENSION OF DIFFERENCE. especially in the low end.
i guess maybe if you have headphones you have listened to for years and years and your ears know them etc etc maybe you can get something good but idk. all my money now is going into monitor fund. but then my bank charged me an overdraft fee. and i didnt look at my account online for over a month b/c i moved to a new country, and i had accumulated over $400 in fees. so a few more months til monitors 
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e-motion
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 03:39
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Imo, headphones don't work very well for bass. Low frequencies need space to develop and your headphones are close to your ears.
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That happens quite a lot. It's probably either the filter cutoff, filter env ammount or filter env ADSR (or the lack of cutoff following note as someone mentioned). Play arround with those. One thing I learned is never make a bass patch with single note x 3 bassline, since it will suck when you change the notes afterwards.
Start with the pattern you want and tweak the bass from there. Hope it helped 
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alajarvela
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 10:47
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How about if you want to get higher notes, use a sub bass, just a basic sine with some boosted low end, should give the higher notes some power. |
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 11:40
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On 2012-03-10 22:07, makus wrote:
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On 2012-03-10 17:43, Alien Bug wrote:
tip: many producers use headphones for work with bass
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really? i never was able to make any at least average kick or bass in hp.
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thats very true cause the rooms color too muhc the sound even treated one. i make as good or better kick bass in my headphones than on bm6a adam or focal.. i know big psy producers that does the same too ,or always check it on headphone; the thing is to have a decent headphone.
i m gonna get the hd800 i would not be suprised if it s smoke my monitors for lot of things , probably even more detailed and analitic than adam in the mids and highs and offcourse the bass .
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 12:25
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On 2012-03-22 11:40, PoM wrote:
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On 2012-03-10 22:07, makus wrote:
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On 2012-03-10 17:43, Alien Bug wrote:
tip: many producers use headphones for work with bass
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really? i never was able to make any at least average kick or bass in hp.
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thats very true cause the rooms color too muhc the sound even treated one. i make as good or better kick bass in my headphones than on bm6a adam or focal.. i know big psy producers that does the same too ,or always check it on headphone; the thing is to have a decent headphone.
i m gonna get the hd800 i would not be suprised if it s smoke my monitors for lot of things , probably even more detailed and analitic than adam in the mids and highs and offcourse the bass .
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yesssss HD650S all the way!!!!
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Equilizyme
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 18:44
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 20:05
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http://forum.isratrance.com/sennheiser-hd650-vs-hd600/
just an old thread about this, i accidntly stumbled across whilst searchin for sumthin else few day back.
aeon mentions sumthing quite related to this thread, that sennihizers can be closly more acurate than your monitoring if un treated. the low end is so clean that u can get a true result. its ancient but well worth a read .
i was proud to be apart of that thread.. good descriptions here, the conversations kinda vered off what ones was best, but more to the quality of 650. if ur budget iant gud get these. the sound you get is amense and the comfort is indescribable
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 20:10
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On 2012-03-22 18:44, Equilizyme wrote:
holy shit HD800s look space age! and the low low price of $1500!!
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yeas expensive for headphone... but i rate already my ath and dt 880 in same league as my monitors, they are betetr for some stuff worst for some other.. but i would say in same league , the hd 800 smoke these headphone so will probab ly smoke my monitors too hopefully as room acoutis affect so much the sound |
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 20:20
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just noticed that your in that thread aswell Pom lol.
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 20:20
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 20:23
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excacly but offer the same degree of quality at that price! why not get both.... ha
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 22, 2012 20:25
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imo it s easier and faster to archieve great production by learning one or two GOOD headphone than using monitors but headphone are a bit a pain to use... but once you re used to how it translate it s very powerfull. guys like me who used monitors for years it s hard to think it s possible...but i would have used a good headphone for same amount of time i bet my production would be better ,as i spent half that time fighting rooms acoutics and it s really what set the bar of the production once you re experienced.
i love to tweak/make source in my headphones i hear every little details , i love to use them for equing too ,processing...it always translate great on my monitors.. but it s not really one vs the other, it s using both at what they do great in tandem , in headphone it s easier to make big mixing mistake that dont hapen on monitors,it need a bit of training and to a/b a lot , probably cause i m way more used to monitors .
imo headphone is the futur in electronic production but it s maybe not there yet ,dunno i never tried a highend headphone ..(but the guy who recomend me ath 50 he mix since long time , he mixed in lot of great studio..he play in clubs every weekend all around the globe, he know what he is talking about saying he get good translation)
avantage are cheaper price ,you can make music everywhere... no need expensive monitors and to treat the room and you can get same quality sound with training |
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