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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:26
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Luiz all the artists that i named have become really famous here in Greece.
Care to know how many of their fans own an original cd of Pots Bitmonx and the likes?
NO ONE.
Simply because most of these cd's dont reach Greece or just because the compilations arent good enough to buy except two tracks in them.
By the way what happens when there is a cd released and there is just one good track there?
Will anyone buy a cd just for a track?
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cave girl
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:30
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hey guys....
it will be ok!
im more than sure in short time we will have other solution to our problem
after all trance ppl is computer ppl...
so meanwhile hear all what u got at home
i know i have some cd i never heard
now its the time...
i remember my strange dream and knew i had the strengh and love in my heart to create something for my life, the world was waiting, i was REBORN. |
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traveller
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:33
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" I feel a great disturbance in the force "
It's like 3 billion mp3s where playing around, and then, silence.
[ This Message was edited by: traveller on 2002-06-19 13:33 ] "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven |
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:36
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Ok, Earth to Isratrancem Earth to Isratrance, we seem to have a malfunction here....
you guys are giving AG way too much credit in terms of a "promoitional" tool. your credit far exceeds it's reputation by a landslide. get OVER your self and get with it, homeys. Im PFS that even without AG or Napster having unreleased tracks for you to download (an Illeagle thing to do, and also a rip off...), artists like BLT and Bitmonks and Freaking Astral fucking projection would have done fine. heck. more than fine. cause instead of downloading the music, you'd be buying the music. now here's the tricky part - someone downloads a new album, he likes it, yet he doesnt buy it (why should he? he has it all on his harddrive, and don't even think of patronizing me on this one and saying that's wrong - a lot of ppl are like that and a small group simply doesnt cut it as a majority here), and than record sales are down, the artist loses his contract, cannot afford to make music anymore, and were left with eyal barkan for our morning pleasure...
im pretty sure Elvis didnt need AG, had it existed in his time. and he was considered Underground back than. how the heck did he pull it off without AG? wonders never cease..
[ This Message was edited by: Jason (LyTe) on 2002-06-19 13:38 ] "We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb
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danger
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:38
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I'm sure if artists has money they buy the most important things to make music. Buy you have to understand most of the artists and labels are living from the music. They just want from the fans to buy the favourite cds, not every, just the favourites. And go and see them on the parties.
Simple and you don't have to be Richie Rich.
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patrick
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:45
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i really dont think ag was the problem... i mean where all these unrel. tracks came from? i think when artists would pay more attention to whom they give their stuff away nobody could trade them right? my guess is that in the psytrance scene the business (artists/labels) are the bigest mafia. so they should stop whining about that, but act against the "black sheeps" in the business and be more professional. and when we get startet about copyright and stuff... do all these artists pay for their cubase/logic or whatsoever? i would bet that almost everyone had atleast at the beginning of his/her career a hacked version. and it goes on and on... the samples someone aready mentioned.
that doesent mean that one shouldnt buy records - i think everyone who really likes the music should buy their fair share of original records- but its just funny when some ppl cry foul when music is copied, this was always part of the music business and will always be, with or without ag.
just my thoughts about that topic
peace
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cave girl
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:51
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danger i dont know where u coming from but here in israel the cd price are way too much imo
i mean 90 nis for cd? (like 18 $)
way too much for a person who go to parties
when i was buying cd it was never ending story
u buy 3 u need 10 more!
and like someone said here there are lots of cd or compilations with only 2-3 good tracks..
i know its hard subject
but if the cd prices were lower it would make all the sides happy.
i remember my strange dream and knew i had the strengh and love in my heart to create something for my life, the world was waiting, i was REBORN. |
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:58
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cavit, i have rarely seen a trance record being sold for more than 70 nis. granted, it's still expensive, but it's no 90 nis, right?
what do you expect ppl? to get everything for fuck all? forget that. like chaitu said here - no free meals.
"We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 13:59
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and to set some things in proportion - BLT's Presence cost 55 shekels in a tower record store (and these guys are cheap SOB's,rating most of the other albums inshop at over 85 nis)..
"We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb
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Luiz Paulo
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 14:06
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I mean, if you bought ALL of your CDs, the good old capitalist competition would increase the quality of the music. You have a problem with a CD with just one good track? Don't buy it, eventually either the label improves its quality or run out of business, plain and simple. Now labels run out of business not because they are bad at this music thing, but because 2000 spoiled kids log on to AG and download the disc.
And plz, no complaints on price ok?
I want to have a Ferrari. U$ 200.000. Do I go out and steal one?
I want to have a Nakamishi sound system. U$ 3000. Have I stolen one from the local dealer?
Then why the hell should I be allowed to steal music???
It's like Yuli said, for most ppl out here, it's become like a heroin addiction: more, more, more. Plz, go out and listen CAREFULLY to the stuff you got....
the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.... |
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Zombi
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 14:30
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and now no will be all this fake top tens with names of trax that never was maded. ahahahhh..
and all this ppl who scream what a great trax they have (unrl one of course  ) and then u listen to it u hear KidMadedShitOnAntariComp and u dont undestand who is more stupid - the guy that talk shit or u that listen to it..
Believe your soul ! |
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tom anteater
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 14:47
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On 2002-06-19 01:58, Yuli wrote:
I guess that some 95% of the ppl here wont agree with me but there is something magical in things one doesn't know and suddenly discover ( for better and for worst )... The internet piracy is very tempting for sure.. and it's free.. but one thing I learned, is that things you get without making an effort ( I don't consider typing as an effort BTW ) doesn't worth much for you and finally your life doesn't worth much for you and you spend it and it's gone...
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mate, i totally agree with you! i find i can get musical 'indigestion' just by purchasing too many cds at once (possible now i earn money...). never really listen to 'em properly, what a waste. but if you just get a choice few, then those are so special to you!
AG as promotional tool? when i got into this music there was no such thing as ag, or napster. i bought the compilations that appeared in the shops - and if i had to come to london to find it i did. I can see the convenience of posting your own music on the net and just directing labels to a url to listen to it, but no-one has said that was bad...
at the end of the day, theft is theft. a lot of your justifications for downloading are as poor as justifications of insurance fraud on the grounds that 'everyone does it'.
however there is an issue here, cause if your downloading REALLY does not affect how much money you personally spend on music... then the net effect on the industry is nil, right. but, this is no closed system so can never be tested.....
PLUR people
this is only my opinion...
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Wako Jako
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 14:48
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i agree about the addiction.
ppl are downloading stuff they dont even hear or like.
just so they "HAVE" it.
its pointless.
and it sux.
SMILE ! and the whole world will smile right back at you ! |
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DJ EL LOCO
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 14:57
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Some people here suck up to artists, so they think they'll have good connection...
Well you are the real problem in this buisness
You keep on saying stuff that doesnt make any sense!! Elvis?? What the fu$$ is that all about?? I think someone took way too much drugs..... AG got shut down not because your trance scene ! no one cares about that in the IRAA, GO AHEAD AND ASK 'EM!!
Its all couse the mtv starts.......
So stop saying bullshit ! AG only helped the trance scene and its artists, and something else will replace it short enough!!
More than half of the top artists today wouldnt be so well known around the world as today , if It WASNT FOR MP3 !! FACT!!
STOP Leaving in a dream , you are about to wake up & it will blow in your face! FACT!!
WAR U WANTED, WAR YOU SHALL HAVE!!
ARE YOU HERE FOR THE KNNOBBIN' ?! |
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cave girl
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Posted : Jun 19, 2002 14:58
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i agree about the addiction!
thats what i said its good time to all of u listen to all zilion cd u have at home and dont even listen.
ppl just downlaod music like factory and dont hear half of what they have
but jason! u cant give one blt cd as example for cd
price cuzz most stuff in tower cost 85.
and u all nice ppl say dont bitch about cd prices
BUT IM NOT THE ONE WHO PUT THE UNRL IN THE AG!
AND IF THE SYSTEM WOULDNT WORK LIKE THIS WE WOULDNT KNOW ALOT OF ARTIST WE KNOW TODAY
so again im the only one who say the truth and not the plur stuff u all like to hear
i know for fact that most trance scene is bulit on mp3 and not cd ppl buy
at least im honest!
and from time to time im buying something i really really like
but i cant afford all cd i want !
how did i know when i say something all this mess will happen...
i remember my strange dream and knew i had the strengh and love in my heart to create something for my life, the world was waiting, i was REBORN. |
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