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				Atmos - Klein Aber Doctor (Slinky Nuns remix - Hallucinogen dub mix) 
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      				Posted : Nov 23, 2012 19:02
      				 
      
      			
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						Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
 Respect!
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      				Posted : Nov 24, 2012 11:25
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2012-11-21 07:07, tifenni wrote:
 To see a world in a granda of stand.And a heaven in a wild flower.Hold infinity in the palm your hand and eternity in an hour.2
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 here's the correct version:
 
 To see a world in a grain of sand,
 And a heaven in a wild flower,
 Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
 And eternity in an hour. [...]
 
 The beginning of William Blake's poem Auguries of Innocence.
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      				Posted : Nov 24, 2012 11:36
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2012-11-15 14:57, Nomad Moon wrote:
 Very nice, and all this done in 19 mins  
 Correct me if i'm wrong but when Dick Trevor speaks about "In the "olden days" before making everything inside a computer people would make their sequenced mix then put everything on a loop and make a live mix on the analogue mixing desk twisting the FX and EQ's", he's saying they would export every single track into a different loop and mix them on the analogue desk, correct?
 
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 Not quite.  What he's saying is that the track would be recorded in several separate sections which would then be edited together to make the complete remix.  Each section would consist of a loop in the sequencer of a different part of the track, most likely 8 or 16 or 32 bars long, with every sound in the track playing at once into a separate channel on an analog mixing desk.  Everything would have been driven by MIDI and all the sounds would have been produced by hardware.  As the loop played back over and over, channels on the mixer would be muted and unmuted by hand in real-time, and the FX and EQ would be tweaked to create the different parts of the final arrangement, which would then be edited together afterwards.
 
 There was no 'exporting' in those days! All hardware...
 
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 this is how i used to mix and record tracks too. 100% hardware (except the sequencer program), analog mixer and midi control. nowerdays i'm still using midi controlled hardware but the mixing desk is gone  
 man, now i feel old and i'm still in my 30's  
 
 great track btw! i miss trance with a capitol T. 
 
 
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						I still mix that way, bands & my own music. Doing it in the box is so boring. It rarely allows for experimentation or for true artistic flow IMO.
 
 I'm never in a rush to finish recording or mixing. A day or a month, whatever it takes for perfection. It's why I charge so much for bands etc. at my home studio & they pay. 
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 I still mix that way, bands & my own music. Doing it in the box is so boring. It rarely allows for experimentation or for true artistic flow IMO.
 
 I'm never in a rush to finish recording or mixing. A day or a month, whatever it takes for perfection. It's why I charge so much for bands etc. at my home studio & they pay. 
 
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 Mixing on a nice analog desk is always nice, but mixing in the box gives you total set up recall for working with different projects. Something that is of up most importance if you are working many projects in a professional studio. Unless you have an expensive desk with motorized faders/sends/total recall  
 
 And the O2R/O1V...etc don't count. Digital mixers that don't even sound good.
                   
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						It's not the tool you use but your creativity that sets the way.  Anyone claiming that one way is better than the other got no clue really.
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						You are correct, neither way is better!!!
 
 but  each one does have an influence on the music made, I believe.
 
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 It's not the tool you use but your creativity that sets the way.  Anyone claiming that one way is better than the other got no clue really.
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						So i guess i'll see Elysium next summer  				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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 On 2012-11-26 21:23, dick hardman wrote:
 You are correct, neither way is better!!!
 
 but  each one does have an influence on the music made, I believe.
 
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 It's not the tool you use but your creativity that sets the way.  Anyone claiming that one way is better than the other got no clue really.
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 On 2012-11-27 01:31, Nomad Moon wrote:
 So i guess i'll see Elysium next summer  
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 Depend where you are from  
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						Portugal - Lisbon  
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 Yes then I will be there  :):)
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 You are correct, neither way is better!!!
 
 but  each one does have an influence on the music made, I believe.
 
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 It's not the tool you use but your creativity that sets the way.  Anyone claiming that one way is better than the other got no clue really.
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 Not really.
 
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 Would you agree it depends on the person?  Old timers who have done both could weigh in on this.  Would be interesting to hear their experience.  
 
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						it  can make it more enjoyable and fun and influence the music imo the end result.
 also in term of production a good desk can sound really nice with great eq,saturation..				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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