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Mesq
Reality Pixie
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Posted : May 10, 2008 03:54
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Hey why don't we go back to the cutup days back in goa where they just played pre-arranged mixes all night... Oh hangon that's whats happening now anyway  |
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V3NOM
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Posted : Nov 20, 2008 12:26
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I'd blow Avi of Astral under the dex any day  |
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Jesus Raves
Jesus Raves / Kanibal Raves
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Posted : Nov 20, 2008 15:56
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They have just split the tracks channels, big deal... 
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palex
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Posted : Nov 24, 2008 01:44
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On 2008-05-06 08:34, Pavel wrote:
Now if anyone of you bitches, have anything else to say, NOW'S THE FUCKING TIME!
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tarantino rox!!
keep music evil!! |
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moki
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Nov 24, 2008 02:15
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On 2008-04-20 17:44, MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr wrote:
i ment there still astral and more strong than even
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you really believe that? more strong than ever?  why are they more strong than ever?? cause they were the ones to write the first capitals of trance history? i mean, of course they deserve all needed respect, but it doesnt make them stronger than ever. and yes, as someone mentioned, some djs do more live than some live acts nowadays. me personally, i am a big fen of lives, i mean, i like them much more than djsets but if the case is such that there is no fucking virtuosity in the act, it is the same like i would put a cd and listen at home, then what is the meaning to be there live? just to be there present? to make a small vacation in a nice country?:)
and even if almost no one makes 100 percent live , they do make a little bit though, that categorises them as such. if you put a cd, it is simply not live:))))))))).
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Nov 24, 2008 05:02
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On 2008-11-20 15:56, Jesus Raves wrote:
They have just split the tracks channels, big deal...
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haha do you suggest maybe that you can actualy write hole new track or something on stage???
they doing great electronic live show , nothing more nothing less is expected... this what the biggest bands and electronic projects do , play their own loved songs with a twist and some control on it
all you need is more imagination what can be done with those channels splitted...
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moki
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Posted : Nov 24, 2008 15:21
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and you need to observe what is happening too. cause otherwise it is not live. live means to be there and be one with the audience.
that is why there is a great difference between the big bands and electronic projects of the mainstream on the one side, and the real psychedelic live acts on the other side. the first just push a button and play what they know. they are the fucking middle of everything. no matter the channels and the twist. the point is that they are simply not keeping the energy of the gathering in a circle but it is one way journey. the one is leading the trip, all the rest follows. and this is not the case with real true psychedelic acts. they are there, they dont just act, but they react. they observe and follow. no matter the channels or whatever. at the end of the day noone is making as real lives as they used to be done by musicians before the electronic sound came. face it. not even one real real live act. so it is not so much about the percentage of being live, is much more about the energy circulating in a circle. this is the difficult point.
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goa-ganges
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Posted : Nov 25, 2008 18:00
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As I always said: there´s a lot of envy of AP´s success behind some comments in this topic.
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Jesus Raves
Jesus Raves / Kanibal Raves
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Posted : Nov 25, 2008 19:44
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On 2008-11-20 15:56, Jesus Raves wrote:
They have just split the tracks channels, big deal...
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haha do you suggest maybe that you can actualy write hole new track or something on stage???
they doing great electronic live show , nothing more nothing less is expected... this what the biggest bands and electronic projects do , play their own loved songs with a twist and some control on it
all you need is more imagination what can be done with those channels splitted...
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Hehehe, mate no, You miss the point, I said it's not somethin' special in their live act, just movin' faders up/down like almost every artist do. Someone also plays some parts on synths.
And I respect all acts who even try to do something on live, not just to press play, I respect Tegma, too but as I wrote, it's not something special to be named "OMG,THAT IS A REAL LIVE ACT"
And of course, no one can write the whole new track on the stage, except if the project have many people involved
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moki
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Posted : Nov 26, 2008 20:32
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On 2008-11-25 18:00, goa-ganges wrote:
As I always said: there´s a lot of envy of AP´s success behind some comments in this topic.
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why enemies? just objective conclusions...
of course astral were the pioneers at the beginning and i highly respect what they did for my personal consciousness shift, but if it is not live, then it is the way it is....
the past doesnt make you stronger than ever.....
but i will never ever forget the years when they were THE big channel of cosmic energy. i listened to them for months, non stop almost, it was the time to start awakening....and i will always respect them for that but you know. you have to be a little bit more interested if you make live.....
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frambonas
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 08:55
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Heard they played a pretty good live act last weekend in Denmark, 2 laptops and live synths...
I really would like to hear some of there new music, becouse (I know not everyone does), but the album "amen" I tought was very good! |
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 11:26
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Avi seemed pretty real when I spent some time with him last time
I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy! |
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 11:26
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drinking at the bar that is 
I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy! |
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Pavel
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 16:47
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On 2008-12-09 11:26, sergeantpepper666 wrote:
drinking at the bar that is
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For a second I kind of started to worry
Everyone in the world is doing something without me |
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Posted : Dec 10, 2008 08:11
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On 2008-11-24 15:21, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
live means to be there and be one with the audience.
that is why there is a great difference between the big bands and electronic projects of the mainstream on the one side, and the real psychedelic live acts on the other side. the first just push a button and play what they know. they are the fucking middle of everything. no matter the channels and the twist. the point is that they are simply not keeping the energy of the gathering in a circle but it is one way journey. the one is leading the trip, all the rest follows. and this is not the case with real true psychedelic acts. they are there, they dont just act, but they react. they observe and follow. no matter the channels or whatever. at the end of the day noone is making as real lives as they used to be done by musicians before the electronic sound came. face it. not even one real real live act. so it is not so much about the percentage of being live, is much more about the energy circulating in a circle. this is the difficult point.
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I dont wanna start a big long discussion Moki, but just think for a second:
When an artist come to play LIVE, with instruments or using midi controllers to manipulate some part of the tracks, thay HAVE to plan it ahead of the performance.
Thay play live yes, but they have to follow a playlist.
What if the crowd dosnt respond very well to the next song? well, they've to stick to it.
In the other hand the DJ can read the crowd and play what is needed on the dancefloor. And in a long set by a good dj, he can "design" a journey with up and down, get a connection with the crowd and select music to make the party flow.
"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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