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Artists & Labels: I'm Saying Goodbye to Buying CDs!
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sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 07:55
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On 2007-04-17 04:01, andrew interchill wrote:
i also think of labels like dakini and ultimae that have such lovely art and packaging...
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there is nothing like receving an ultimae's packet.
  the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!! |
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PKS
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 09:42
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Personally, I will NEVER buy mp3's...
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I agree with those who praise the concept of receiving a CD, put the CD in the player while enjoying the artwork and booklet information! I like to have a nice CD in my shelf, maybe to rediscover it again in ten years, look on the cover art again while spinning it and think back on the days and memories... Take for example the Return To The Source compilations or Trance Europe Express compilations that are over ten years old... Read the booklets and enjoy the entire concept of it! I think information like this will be lost ten years after if it was only released digital...
A lot of chill labels really put a lot into their cover arts and booklets, something I don't want to loose... On the Chill Tribe releases, I also provide a lot of reading information for the listeners, something I know many appreciate. The artwork on the Dakini releases are simply amazing, and I can sit down study them for ages while lying on my couch listening to the music. I just don't want to loose that feeling....
If it was only possible to release music digitally, I would not have been running Chill Tribe... The result would actually be that many of the tracks would never have been made...
CHILL TRIBE
CTRCD01 QUALITY RELAXATION
CTRCD02 RELAXED JOURNEYS
CTRCD03 EAR PLEASURE
CTRCD04 WOMBATMUSIC - Shameful Silence
CTRCD05 POLYPLOID - Grow Your Own
CTRCD06 IAN ION - Gringo Locomotion
CTRCD07 SUNKINGS - Before We Die |
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mouka
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 10:58
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still - the label's job is to make the music available in every format for which there is a demand... and I'm sure we'll see the demand for digital outgrow that for cd's in the next 2 or 3 years. |
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I agree with Andrew here, another 1-3 years though!
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Gunter
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 11:50
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I would be happy, if digital releases would rise, since it is more easy to get them and they don`t take so much space like CD`s ...
But sometimes it is also nice to have a real physical release in youre hands (more personal).
I guess, if everything would be available as mp3 also, I would buy 80 % mp3 and 20 % physical.
If phyical releases would totally die out I would be sad.
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sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 15:06
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On 2007-04-17 11:50, Gunter wrote:
I guess, if everything would be available as mp3 also, I would buy 80 % mp3 and 20 % physical.
If phyical releases would totally die out I would be sad.
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u summed up my feeling
the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!! |
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 16:39
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Don't get me wrong here...I love collecting and having physical releases, as a matter of fact I still miss my vinyl.
I'm only being realistic
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Outolintu
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 17:49
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i'm with quasga on the point that it would be more important to get rid of cd-rs first. i also understand that digital d.loads will most probably be the feature (although i think it'll take more than the 2-5 years to get to 80% d.loads vs. 20% cd) and am not fighting against it. i'm actually thinking of partially moving into that direction as a releasing artist BUT when i find a special release i want to buy for myself then i need the whole concept (cd or vinyl as long as it's possible) and a mp3 with some .zip files wont do the trick
we could also start to discuss what it means in a philosophical way to move into a immaterial time of music. what are the ups and downs? you tell me 
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MagGyver
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 20:02
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Let's keep in mind that Brett's post talks about lossless digital downloads, which rules out MP3. I believe he was referring to WAV and possibly FLAC (a lossless compression format) but not MP3. |
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 21:13
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label should pay 2000eu for your safe buy
get real , it will cost heaps more to install secuirity then ship the cd..
i support your idea and sorry i dont have way to sell my music online , without risk your credit card!
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BrettFromTibet
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 23:18
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We're not talking about MP3 and iTunes.
We're talking about next-generation, higher standards of digital download quality...
How about digital downloads that are both lossless and (eventually) even better-than-CD-quality, like DATs were?
(A choice of FLAC, WAV, & .M4A would be good.)
If labels want to continue to sell CDs to the hardcore collectors who buy them, that's great!
But many would strongly prefer instant, lossless digital downloads: 21st century music distribution. The technology and mass consumer desire for needed for this evolution is already widespread.
For people like me, CD-only shops and 20th century labels are no longer relevant.
My financial support and recommendations will only extend to those artists and labels who offer high-quality, eco-friendly digital downloads.
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punkah
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Posted : Apr 17, 2007 23:25
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here in brazil, whenever i order phisycal stuff, I pay the regular price + shipping + 70% custom import taxes (stupid govrnmnt)...
when you live in a 3rd world country, make way less money and have to pay almost twice as much as someone from europe would pay, that sucks... (blame the governement again!)
so i`ve been almost obligued to buy digital during the last months, not because i like that (like Justin i stilll miss my dub vinyls)...
but is just the way to go, and the only way to present fresh music to the public without selling my mama.
i still haven`t found the perfect online shop as far as quality and price is concerned.
beatport is pretty good, but extra $1 (each track!) for WAV handling make it as expensive as buying the physical stuff.
anyway, you can listen to full tracks in their player, several times, and that almost makes up for the price (you don`t buy crap tracks).
American based DTD have great price, plenty of great dub music and grooves, but deals only with 320 mp3 (wich can be played, but well... its lossy).
waiting for di killer e-shop///
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Trip-
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Posted : Apr 18, 2007 08:17
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The main difference between a CD and a computer file, is that you can copy the file exactly bit by bit and make 1000 of files like it just by having the original. There won't be any difference - they will all be originals for that matter.
A CD on the other hand, cannot be identically copied. The copy will never be the same one you bought that came from your label.
Once files are on the internet it's a click of a button to distribute it to the whole world - and it will be 100% identical to the original digital release.
A CD you have to rip and then put online... And this will always have the 'copied' mark on it.
Labels are not greedy - they just put alot of effort into their releases - at least our small chillout scene ones. I'm sure that in a perfect world, they would like to get payed for every original release that somebody has.
And today, the only way to tell the difference between a payed-for original and a copied-copy is by selling something you can't identically copy - which is a CD.
my 0.02 shekels.
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Apr 18, 2007 09:44
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Point taken Phil, but...at some point even the feeling of ownership gets obsolete as well.
Think about it...online shop you want it, you get it
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Trip-
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Posted : Apr 18, 2007 10:57
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Once you can copy an original to be identical to it, that's a prob. And in the digital domain, a file is a file is a file.
Is it ok not to tell the difference between what is an original from the label, and what is a copy?
If we all say yes now, then I would like to know what's next and how we all see the future - of labels and music sales.
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