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Borris
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Posted : Dec 29, 2004 00:37
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Tiesto had litle to do with psy, but Oakie, yeah the man did a CD for Dragonfly, released 2 albums for MWNN and much more...
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a3k
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Posted : Dec 29, 2004 11:29
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and just a question...bout 4 example is it like that the artists booked 4 a big festival are willing the lower their prices...?i mean..4 example a great, or a well conceituated festival (boom, universo parallello, and others, not only psy letīs supose.)and itīs a festival where lotīs and lotīs of people are going 2.
so my question is: would they lower the prices? cause itīs obvious festivals like thix can bring much publicity...or would thix agravatte the prices?cause play in front of 20 000 people is very hard i guess..
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Martin
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Posted : Dec 29, 2004 17:51
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I think the Artists can go down with their fee for a Festival, especially when the promoter booked more acts or djs at the same label. |
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Borris
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Posted : Dec 29, 2004 19:16
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on the other hand, sucsessfull festivals make alot of money so they can afford to pay the DJ or Live some more.
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a3k
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Posted : Dec 29, 2004 19:35
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yes but does the artist think in thix?well letīs see:
a non well act does it charge more 4 being @ the fest?
or does he think better and accept the cash the promoters are willing 2 pay...cause is such a respected festival..and it can bring more publicity 2 the artist..and well, if thix artist doesnīt want 2 accept it..then they can book another artist?cause they think..itīs a huge festival there are a lot of artists that do wanna come...
can there be respect?
iīm just wondering on thix 2 questions...funny right?
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Pavel
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Posted : Dec 29, 2004 22:20
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On 2004-12-29 00:37, Dr. Borris wrote:
Tiesto had litle to do with psy, but Oakie, yeah the man did a CD for Dragonfly, released 2 albums for MWNN and much more...
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Perfecto Fluoro. Perfecto's Goa sub label released several albums and singles.
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Martin
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Posted : Dec 29, 2004 22:40
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On 2004-12-29 19:16, Dr. Borris wrote:
on the other hand, sucsessfull festivals make alot of money so they can afford to pay the DJ or Live some more.
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If you do the booking months before the event you can't be 100% sure that the party/Festival will be successful. I disagree with you Dr. Borris : ) |
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Borris
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Posted : Dec 31, 2004 04:55
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Martin, it's a risk the promoter has to take, belive me I've seen too many times that promoters try and make DJ's partners to their loses, are the DJ's also partners to the promoters sucsess??
it's not hard to know if an event will be sucsessfull or not. if the lineup is good, the promoter isn't dodgy and the PR work is done correctly then the party will be a sucsess, if the party is a faliure then perhaps that promoter shouldn't have done it in the first place.
a3k, I'm talking about established artists not upcoming unknown ones. and yes, sometimes you meet artists that will be wiling to come and play somewhere for free (just for the travel expenses).
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UnderTow
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Posted : Dec 31, 2004 15:10
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I heard there were 20K people at the last Boom. (This could be wrong). If I remember correctly, the tickets were 100 Euro. That is 2 million Euros turn-over. I doubt artists will reduce their prices for these kind of festivals.
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DETOX
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Posted : Dec 31, 2004 19:34
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The Boom Festival line up wasnt an expensive one anyway Undertow.
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Borris
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Posted : Dec 31, 2004 20:44
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undertow, that;s exactly what i had in mind.
but there were closer to 18K people, and lets assume presale and free entries make the turnover closer to 15K, still very impresive. and yes Detox, the lineup there wasn't expensive. no IM, GMS or AP there to take 5K UE per gig.
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sWa
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Posted : Dec 31, 2004 23:28
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I'v heard rumours that some artists where only Paid 200euro, anyone know about this ? is it true ?
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DETOX
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Posted : Jan 1, 2005 02:57
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Many 'small name' artists played there so i wouldnt be suprised to hear that some people played even for free.
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sWa
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Posted : Jan 1, 2005 13:08
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well if that would be the case, with the tickets costing 100euro and 18k ppl comming to the event, the promoters can sit in the sun and relax for 2 years until the next one 
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Jan 1, 2005 15:42
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the original idea of techno and psytrance was, that itīs all about good music and mystical experiences.
big names are of no interest.
anyway, "our" so called big names are nothing but nobodies.
in my opinion, the original concept of underground resistance can only be maintained if we all resist the "money thing".
whenever money plays a too important role things turn fake and superficial.
this might not be a problem for most scenes, which are pretty commercial anyway, but the psychedelic culture is about creating free spaces of compassion and deep experiences.
the extreme opposite is similarly wrong.
itīs about finding the healthy proportion.
iīd say that the best to avoid comercialisation would be to handle it like Dr. Borris outlined it
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On 2004-12-31 04:55, Dr. Borris wrote:
... promoters try and make DJ's partners to their loses, are the DJ's also partners to the promoters sucsess??
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transparency of the incomes and expenses could lead to a state where, in fact, artists are partners to the loses AND to the successes of the promoter!
so - itīs very good to speak straightforward about money.
not to talk about money is an ideology spread by those who benefit from the intransparent situation...
itīs in our all interest to break this ideology and speak about it openly.
i immagine a sort of "share - situation" in our scene which would make it much more independent and underground.:
no fix costs - only percentages of the incomes which are to be shared.
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-10% of the gross income per dj,
-2% per barman
-40% for the promoter who bears the risk not to break even...
etc.
what do you think? |
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