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Psilocibino
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 15:36
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On 2004-10-07 14:36, djbim wrote:
the navel is the little hole in your body
where you was conected with your mother
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got it! in portugues it's called "umbigo"...
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djbim
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 16:52
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what i forget to tell is:
for all people witch are thinking this is shit or a stupid story i like to tell:
this healing is older than everything other on our world.
its older than anny religion in our world and its inside in everybody of us.
also our musiccultre comes from a part of this story.
thounds years ago in every country of our world
the people and the shamanen was dancing to some drum beats between 145-155 bpm to go in contact with something what is not from this earth and be sure it was working.So our party culture is based on this and we all know this !! but it looks like that the most of people forget that a good party is more than
a place to juse stupid stuff and check nice girls.
when you are on a good floor and you are open for this story you can feel how the energie of the other people and the music can catch you and take you to a other place.good dancer can tell you that they loose time when they dance.
and also a few dj can tell you that they have timebreaks in good set.
i had it on a few partys some breaks like that you look and the thats 3 in the night and the next what you know is thats 1 hour later but you dont feel it.so where you have been in this houre??for sure at the work about the people are still dancing but thats all what you know.
special in this moments you are open in your mind to pick up energie from the people and that can be sometimes very dangerous and sometimes good.
now i think a few of you ask what like to tell me this idiot with this word.??
i lerned that we all slowly forget that our partyculture is more than a place where we have fun.
we are in this moment in the position to share our feelings and energie to other people and some times
you can give with your energie to other people a big help.
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we are not progressive
we are in trance
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 17:02
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yeah bim, i totally agree!
i know very well what youīre talking about. this state of "losing time" is what iīm aiming at all the time.
you can also call it ego-nullification.
and instead of complaining about the stupid people attaining our parties i should better concentrate on my own meditation to get to such high realms of consciousness again, i know.
i bemoan the loss of those wonderful moments so much. all this wonderful magic and energy which used to fill me up and make me think positive isnīt there anymore.
but itīs up to me to get it back. |
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Anak
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 17:23
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 17:27
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Roman i agree with you that you need to believe in it so it can help you . I don't . Approoved by medicine means that it can't harm but medicine uses is something that goverment approove to use as medicine since Israel not use even Chinese medicine in hospitals i can't accept it . So respect my thought also . What is realy important is that our Dear Mr.Bim can play his music and enjoy . |
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Pointy
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 18:33
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Thanks Bim for sharing your experiences and bringing back some very important ideas to peoples minds.
Sure there will be some people thinking 'what the f*** does this guy want', but I think mainly your words are inspiring and reconfirming for people.
I got some kind of tickling anyways when I was reading your posts. This kind of excitement that comes with the feeling that we all are interconnected and that there is much more to life, than we perceive.
Dimitri, Anakoluth said, that you donīt have to believe in it for it to work!
I am not going to try and convince you of something, but for example a friend of mine works with chinese medicine in Switzerland and it is acknowledged by the government and you can get your visit paid by the insurance. |
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 18:41
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For me Chinese medicine did not work , used needle therapy for two years to get ridd of astma without any success but every seanse "the healer" promiss me about quick healing . So probably not always i talk bullshit . My mother used to be in SunRider , famous chinese therapy company who work on weeds that heal , also without any success , not my astma , not other person illnesses not pass .
So probably i have a basis to say what i say . Once again we live in different words my called "reality" you called "dream" , i'm not sure what is better or real but i'm total realistic who base only on science . There is no govermental medical centre that will insure you about 100% help of these .
Totaly  sorry |
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deeplydisturbed
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 18:47
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i happen to know a bit bout rekhi. my girls mother practises rekhi.
true...u gotta believe in it to work,its just about trANSferring positive energy to the place where it is required and requires a great deal of concentration.
it seems rekhi is only used to do good,as in what ever energy you transfer,+ive or -ive,comes back to you. only a very spiritual person who is pure in thought can effectively carry out this technique.
they say seeing is believing,ive seen and now i believe.
if any of you'll get the chance,try it and lemme know if it worked for you.
~peace~ |
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Pointy
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 19:25
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Well, I am not only dreaming about this one, I actually got practical, or "realistic" experiences with it.
For me it was the other way around. Classical western medicine couldnīt help me, put a few needles and herbs did.
There are many examples where allopathic medicine failed.
The main thing is that you yourself want to get healed.
Now you will say: of course I want to get rid of my astma, but that is only your conscious part of being. The unconscious also effects your healing, but you are not aware of it. I could go on about it and explain the unconscious reasons, that usually underly astma, but since you donīt want to know about it I wonīt.
And deeplydisturbed, I would express it a bit differently. imo you donīt have to believe it works, but you have to be open to receive these subtle energies. If you closing yourself up, it wonīt even work if you believe it does.
I have been working with Orgon Energy (Wilhelm Reich) and have been "treating" people that said itīs all bullsh*t, but who were still open to try it and it worked also for them.  |
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psionic nomad
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 20:18
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sure,its a wonderful bit of experinece and unless one practises it remains a perception |
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 21:48
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On 2004-10-07 18:41, Dimitri wrote:
For me Chinese medicine did not work , used needle therapy for two years to get ridd of astma without any success but every seanse "the healer" promiss me about quick healing . So probably not always i talk bullshit . My mother used to be in SunRider , famous chinese therapy company who work on weeds that heal , also without any success , not my astma , not other person illnesses not pass .
So probably i have a basis to say what i say . Once again we live in different words my called "reality" you called "dream" , i'm not sure what is better or real but i'm total realistic who base only on science . There is no govermental medical centre that will insure you about 100% help of these .
Totaly sorry
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there's also karma...
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 22:05
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DiMiTry it is very complex thing with many parametrs , believe in it one of aspects for success in healing ak mental relaxity from ill . There is no such term "karma" in healing . Every illness must have a cure if it's not so we just don't know it . Tell me one thing if Astma been realy healed by shamanic , healers , acapuncture or other form of alternative medicine would it used by worldwide medicine to heal millions who ill by this desease ?
These who you call healers , shamans ..etc are alternative medicine which can be offered only if there is no hope in graduated doctor's point of view . 90% of alternative medicine is pure fake when 10% based on experimental medicine(try and die) which gave it's solutions to some specific problems which are actualy not healing but preventure of illness . When i take headache pill my illness is pass , when i make acapuncture session for two years and it's not help , it means that acapuncture not help everybody so maybe it is not a real cure to global astma but some aspect of astma or some specific person with some specific astma .Actualy astma can't be healed from medical research but attack can be prevented by medicine . So i will use medicine to prevent when you pay dozen of cash to heal something that can't be healed form medical expirience . |
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Pointy
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 22:21
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On 2004-10-07 22:05, Dimitri wrote:
Tell me one thing if Astma been realy healed by shamanic , healers , acapuncture or other form of alternative medicine would it used by worldwide medicine to heal millions who ill by this desease ?
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Now you are dreaming.
Do you really believe medicine is only about doing good for the people?
It is a buisiness, like everything else.
If tomorrow there would be no more illness, where would all the doctors and nurses go and who should eat up all the chemicals produced by the big pharmaceutical companies?
Wilhelm Reich had many good ideas and he was actually the first person who scientifically prooved, that "life energy" (he calls it Orgon) exists.
His books got burned in the USA. The second biggest book-burning in our recent history! |
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 22:27
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Pointy i do believe in life energy but who can proove me or you that these "shamans" know to deal with it ? Same thing i can say about alternative medicine it was invented to make money from dreaming ppl so it does . Alternative medicine cost much more money that regular form of medicine . So i don't see any pointy here . |
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Insomniac
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Posted : Oct 7, 2004 22:33
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Wilhelm Reich had many good ideas and he was actually the first person who scientifically prooved, that "life energy" (he calls it Orgon) exists.
His books got burned in the USA. The second biggest book-burning in our recent history!
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Yeah amazing work by Reich, these three realms correspond to the sequence of Reich's discoveries:
1. Consciousness
Sensation
Emotion
Perception
Thought
2. Life
Animal movement
Biogenesis
Reproduction
Evolution
Growth
3. Atmospheric and cosmic processes
Clouds
Storms
Atmospheric electricity
Creation of matter at every scale
(atom, planet, star, galaxy)
 One should always be in love. That is the reason one should never marry. |
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