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are you ashamed for having tranced?
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Perma Fry
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Posted : Dec 25, 2013 23:20
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No. Never.
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goaren
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Posted : Jan 3, 2014 10:20
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finally a topic worth spending thought into 
being a part of this culture for the past 20 years and going to parties and festivals for 14, i can definitely say that i have struggled at the beginning of my partying days to share it or more like expose it to people outside the trance culture, most of which were very close friends - i was not ashamed of it at all, but in the early years i did not talk about it with them because they simply couldnt accept it, somewhere along the way i grew more confident as a person as well as in the culture and was able to rise above the cynicism and the structured point of view they have had and also spoke to them about the drugs themselves (none of them have tried any form of psychedelics, weed at most).
this culture has affected me so deeply, it grew me as a person and helped me balance my life (i think thats the biggest thing i got from this culture, the sense and understanding of the need for finding the balance), so on the weekends i could go on parties and during the week work on my studies and my career, and i feel that its pretty much very well balanced for the last several years
it is true however that nowadays the majority of my friends are somehow connected to this culture, but i think that its sort of natural selection if you may call it that, because i find more interest in such minded people i've also had several friends come and taste the culture themselves - some liked it and got into it in a way (some more some less), some didnt - but they were at least open to the idea because of how i presented it to them
so hell no not ashamed and damn proud of it too  |
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dick hardman
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Posted : Jan 3, 2014 21:49
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I only shirk away at mentioning that I was into it when I know the person has no idea what it is and googles it or looks up psytrance on youtube and there's so much embarrassing stuff on there I wouldn't want myself to be associated or say that "I'm into".
I prefer not to be associated with something that's been so spoiled and out there for all to see in that way.
I know what it is for myself and how I want to (re)present it and prefer it not being represented in ways that don't jive with me.
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moki
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Posted : Jan 5, 2014 00:38
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On 2014-01-03 21:49, dick hardman wrote:
I prefer not to be associated with something that's been so spoiled and out there for all to see in that way.
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this is exactly the tricky part...
i am proud too - with every event where i took part or coorganized, with every true psychedelic session, with every philosophical insight that i would never have without trancing, and with all the ways these insights manifested through art.
but unfortunately people associate trance partys with more than the events i am proud with. and sad but true, trance partys have no good reputation within societies where people trance since 20 years and where the scene is dense and "mature". they even have a disastrous reputation. and i hope i will not hurt anyone here but it is fair enough that they have a bad reputation. just see all those people you used to trance with: where are most of them now and are they capable of having a meaningful live at all or are they dedicated to d* and party forever ? it is sometimes terrible to see what happened with most of them: they are either more or less insane or just totally incapable of controlling their mind and body any more. how can one be proud if one sees them?
that is why i asked the question if anyone has this thought from time to time to delete everything from the collective cyber space (the web) that you ever left during those years?
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Posted : Jan 6, 2014 20:05
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The reputation of the scene is also relative. it seems very bad for most people in isolation, but once you compare it to other scenes it's not that bad.
I have met people coming form reggae, ska, punk scenes that have just met the "commercial" side of psytrance and they felt like something very nice in comparission.
For a "normal" person who is not in to ANY underground scene anything out of their confort zone seems extreme in a bad way. In comparission I find their activities dull and quite boring. I can't stand their bars, clubs or parties.
So yes, psytrance scene is maybe somthing not to very proud as a whole, but relative to many other things I am very very happy to be it being "my place".
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moki
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Posted : Jan 8, 2014 14:49
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Absolutely. Compared to other alternative scenes the trance scene is the most interesting of all.
But compared to other "fractals" in society?
Just an example: if you are into web or mobile technologies, you often work with people who are mentally on the edge of innovations and pionieer spirit (what the trance scene used to be), and these people are often into mind enhancement (cannabis or whatever). But if you talk about going to "goa trance" to them, you will not win lots of respect. as i said , this is not the case in any country! but it is the case in countries where the trance partys attract losers, junkeys, unemployed and whatever.
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