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Are trance artist's useing iligal soft's?

traveller
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 16:19
elysium has his reasons why he wants to make everyone believe that 320kbps is just crap..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
slomi
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 16:24
haha
elysium, traveller catch you huh?
          " You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
- Some dude with a beard
Always remember:
Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up...
nobody_3
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 16:28
traveller it's amazing how you know so much about people you never meet.

No one catched me slomi.. But keep playing your mp3's and believe that you're right.
traveller
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 17:02
if i was an artist and my albums weren't selling that well and i wouldn't get booked too often sure i would blame the mp3s too and bitch and bitch and bitch about it..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
nobody_3
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 18:02
My dear traveller haven't you noticed that I dont want to get booked - maybe read my posts more carefully? I get plenty of offers to play... I just dont want to play live for many reasons.. first and most important because I dont find it interesting to do playback and I dont have the means to do a "proper" live at the moment... and secondly because I am not into the old music I did. I am currently working on fresh new material concentrating on the progressive side of the scene.. And on top of that I am concentrating on building myself a name as a progressive/deephouse DJ + I work fulltime doing greaphic design... so see my dear traveller...as I told you you dont know the first thing about me... But it's always easier to assume things I guess.

And believe me I am not the only one who's last album sold like shit... it's more the rule than the exception for many many artists today!

I will not get down on your level and start to tell you what think you are traveller... simply because I dont know who you are.

And again it's my right as an artists to bitch about mp3's as much as i wish... like it or not!

So live with it traveller... I dont say you have to agree with me.. But please dont judge people or think you know anything about them when you dont know shit!
slomi
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 18:17
Elysium
chill m8... he is kind of joking with you...

I can't understand how can you say there is a audible difference between 320kpbs to wave.!

mp3 320kbps --> amazing quality!
you should be a bot to notice such difference and let this disturb you!



          " You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
- Some dude with a beard
Always remember:
Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up...
Anak
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 22:47
this thread is fucked up

traveller: do u always need to say bad words when talking about a style?? u know its hard to believe u that theres a mental difference between 17 and 20 if i hear such bullshit said by u..
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slomi
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 22:50
indeed
time to move on...

we don't need someone to lock this, so lets just move on and leave this topic behind...

was nice actually           " You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
- Some dude with a beard
Always remember:
Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up...
Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Nov 23, 2003 12:48
ye was nice to meet u guys
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 23, 2003 17:03
Quote:

On 2003-11-22 18:02, Elysium Project wrote:
My dear traveller haven't you noticed that I dont want to get booked - maybe read my posts more carefully? I get plenty of offers to play... I just dont want to play live for many reasons.. first and most important because I dont find it interesting to do playback and I dont have the means to do a "proper" live at the moment... and secondly because I am not into the old music I did. I am currently working on fresh new material concentrating on the progressive side of the scene.. And on top of that I am concentrating on building myself a name as a progressive/deephouse DJ + I work fulltime doing greaphic design... so see my dear traveller...as I told you you dont know the first thing about me... But it's always easier to assume things I guess.

And believe me I am not the only one who's last album sold like shit... it's more the rule than the exception for many many artists today!

I will not get down on your level and start to tell you what think you are traveller... simply because I dont know who you are.

And again it's my right as an artists to bitch about mp3's as much as i wish... like it or not!

So live with it traveller... I dont say you have to agree with me.. But please dont judge people or think you know anything about them when you dont know shit!




wasn't it just a few days ago when you were saying that organizers are afraid to book you because of your low bpm music and therefore no1 books you. therefore i was sort of assuming that you don't get booked too often. other reason ofcourse being that i haven't seen your name in any party line-up like umm.. ever?

yes i bet most albums do sell like shit. too much identical/not so special/un interesting stuff around. i guess you could blame the mp3s of decreasing the sales too.

i haven't said what i think you are/were now have i? don't know where you pulled that one from.

sure you can bitch about mp3s as much as you want, i doubt it'll make any difference what-so-ever.

and again, i've judged no1. did assume that you aren't making too great of a living with your music project, mainly cos youäve said it yourself..

peace..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
nobody_3
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Posted : Nov 23, 2003 17:36
traveller maybe you haven't seen me because i dont play under the name Esium Project as a DJ and because i play at parties that aren't in your neighbourhood and mainly are small cosy parties and clubs where the promotion is local and not international.
And when I did play at big parties all over the globe I doubt you were into this music my friend Maybe that's why you haven't seen me "ever"?

And about the booking with Elysium Project... Yes it's true that they are afraid to book bands that dont make music around 140 bpm or more, unless it's the small handfull of artists that made it big in the ambient/downbeat genre - you know who I am talking about.... but some still do and soon I am actually doing something eventhough it will be an on-off thing for Elysium Project with the old music.. And it will be around your neighbourhood so you're welcome to come and see it if you want to.

In the future I will only release stuff under the name but in a very different direction - And I wont play live at all

So the example of organisers that dont book me was only refering to Elysium Project live - not me as an DJ.. And I do believe that if I really wanted to get booked with Elysium Project that it would be possible eventhough I still stand by my remark that organisers are afraid to book anything else than the the "stars" in this scene (of course there's exceptions)... Eventhough my music might be unknow to you my music is not unknown in this scene... so in my opinion you do assume things traveller.

And believe me when I say that my "old" music is very different from the identical stuff that goes around in this scene so I doubt that people haven't bought it because it's identical to the rest of the music ! I still blaim the trading for it... But of course you dont have to agree.... it's you right!
slomi
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Posted : Nov 26, 2003 18:55
Quote:

On 2003-11-26 14:46, nectarios wrote:
Quote:

On 2003-11-22 18:17, slomi wrote:
Elysium
chill m8... he is kind of joking with you...

I can't understand how can you say there is a audible difference between 320kpbs to wave.!

mp3 320kbps --> amazing quality!
you should be a bot to notice such difference and let this disturb you!








"Earcheck" is the word that springs to mind.

Play the different formats back on a better system than the one that daddy bought for you and you'll hear the difference

Peace out.






Ahem...

as far as I know, most of the people who buy music don't have PERFECT EAR!
man, we got the fact that you have good knowledge, but most of the people who buy music Don't have these skills.

and believe me
In big sound system, You will never know what file is playing (mp3 on 320kbps or wave) because the party sound system will screw your head whatever it is wave or high qualily.

the only way you can notice the diference is only if you have really good monitors like my sis have (event) and ok it is possible to see the diference but nothing special...

mp3 320 is very Enough quality for every simple and pro listener even with perfect ear!           " You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
- Some dude with a beard
Always remember:
Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up...
Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Nov 26, 2003 19:13
slomi: its not about having skills, perfect ear or good knowledge....its about trusting your ears and listening only what they say. its not about your speakers too (at least if they are well balanced and not boosted on particular frequencies --> u dont need monitors to get that).

"mp3 320 is very Enough quality for every simple and pro listener even with perfect ear!"
maybe for the simple listener but for sure not for the "pro" listener, whats ever that is....           Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
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FUNKKIMUNKKI
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Posted : Nov 28, 2003 11:11
my honest opinion, shoot me if u like

the goal of all artists should be to be heard by as many people as possible, and anyone who believes that is by selling cds is a fool....
buying ur favourite cds is a must but for anyone from killer to crap will be heard at least a 1000x times more by having the music on the net... nomatter if its wav or mp3 so in a way im even sure some artists sell even more cos of the mp3s cos without the mp3s on the net half of the people that bought ur cd would never even have heard of u (not talking to anyone in particular here!)...

ps : i bought loads of original stuff on cd or vinyl in my life (for sure could have bought or nice cars for it ..or whatever..) but HAIL TO the net for letting me get to know acts none of u ever heard of or ever will hear about... and neither would i have if someone didnt want to recommend it...

Space out and relax and simply enjoy the tunes instead of bitching about it, and do what is right for u...

ps: im starting a label myself and im pretty sure bitching about everything doesnt help the least bit... andeven less would help sell more

Bom           ill push u over the edge, and will be smiling when u cant take anymore, at that point ill push a little harder till u experience true psychdelica
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