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Are online mixes legal ?

carrot


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Posted : Nov 27, 2005 11:17
Hi ,

I've noticed a few mixes people are posting on the net and then posting links here in the chill forum . I was wondering if this is legal ? I don't know much about the legalities of online mixes . Can someone here fill me in ?

What I am wondering is do artists get compensated in some way ?



Cheers
Rui Ferreira
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Posted : Nov 27, 2005 15:52
...what kind of compensation are u thinking about?
a:morph


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Posted : Nov 27, 2005 18:39
hi,

concerning our (tough chicks) mixes I can say, the download is legal since we are copyright holder.

we can't speak for others but whenever there is a non-commercial download possibility, the thing is "official" and so to say legal.

but it's good someone seems to care and ask. good question, buddy!

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sundrop
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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 00:50
" What I am wondering is do artists get compensated in some way ? "

First we buy the album,
then the artist get more exposure from the mix,
leading to more sales.
The people mixing arent making any money (so i think), its all about love for music.

If artist start suing DJs then i guess its the end of the world. Once an artist release his tune to the world, then the world will do whatever they want. If the artists dont want their music to be played then they should never release it publicly!!
a:morph


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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 01:05
Quote:

On 2005-11-28 00:50, sundrop wrote:

The people mixing arent making any money (so i think), its all about love for music.

If the artists dont want their music to be played then they should never release it to the public!!



word!           www.toughchicks.de
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DJJISS
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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 13:17
Quote:

On 2005-11-28 00:50, sundrop wrote:
" What I am wondering is do artists get compensated in some way ? "

First we buy the album,
then the artist get more exposure from the mix,
leading to more sales.
The people mixing arent making any money (so i think), its all about love for music.


so ur a mixing dude in this forum
If artist start suing DJs then i guess its the end of the world. Once an artist release his tune to the world, then the world will do whatever they want. If the artists dont want their music to be played then they should never release it publicly!!



so u r a mixing proffessional in this forum
carrot


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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 14:50
Quote:

On 2005-11-28 00:50, sundrop wrote:
" What I am wondering is do artists get compensated in some way ? "

First we buy the album,
then the artist get more exposure from the mix,
leading to more sales.
The people mixing arent making any money (so i think), its all about love for music.

If artist start suing DJs then i guess its the end of the world. Once an artist release his tune to the world, then the world will do whatever they want. If the artists dont want their music to be played then they should never release it publicly!!



I hear what you are saying. Does that mean it is not legal ?

I'm concerned if I put a mix online that some power that be can have my server shut down . Is that possible ?


blueOrb
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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 15:14
@carrot
dont get too paranoid man ....its just a mix .....not individual tracks ...moreover the sound quality of a mix is usually lower .....so i guess its cool ....

but from a technical point of view i guess they would be illegal ....but i dont think ppl care to much about bedroom djs putting online mixes as it serves good promotion ....btw if u kno it shld be technically illegal for any dj to play for a crowd as that would come under public broadcasting ..........relax and iam waiting to hear those mixes
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Hoffman P.
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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 19:20
Well...
I'm one of those guys that mix other people tunes in my set's...
Personally i think that it must be a honor for any artist see that the DJ's play their music, about copyright and stuff, it's obvious that a normal DJ can't pay any of that royalties, cause simply they only play music, they don't release compilations...soo, i think that issue is out of any artist control...and by the way, when you buy a CD you are allready paying the right to play it...as i understand...
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andrew interchill
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Posted : Nov 29, 2005 03:40
it would be really good if people also posted links to the artists sites, or to the label which released the cd, so that if someone liked what they heard they could discover more info and possibly purchase the cd.

in this way, you could point to a tangible benefit
sundrop
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Posted : Nov 29, 2005 09:09
Quote:

On 2005-11-29 03:40, andrew interchill wrote:
it would be really good if people also posted links to the artists sites, or to the label which released the cd, so that if someone liked what they heard they could discover more info and possibly purchase the cd.

in this way, you could point to a tangible benefit




thats a good idea, altho i think its good enough if people put the track name. one thing that bother me is hearing DJ set online and they dont say the track name, just the DJ name.

i dont know how to solve that but, with a hot chicks voice she could say the track name when theres a new track playing
Forest dreams
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Posted : Nov 29, 2005 09:35
i dont think online mixes are illegal! just like at a club or a party a dj plays n mixes a track made by another artist, its all a part of the circle. a track is made, someone posts a mix online...i hear the track in that mix...and maybe i go buy the cd. o its more or less a sale for the record co.!
These guys are not really selling their mixes online...they re just gainin exposure and learning more! so thers notin illegal bout it. and imo ure not gonna get sued for it!
and besides...thats how most artists have become what they are today. whether in psy, chill or any other genre!



p.s one of mettallica's first ever gig's was at a bar where they played only covers by diamond head, black sabbath etc, and later they released garage inc.(a cd full of their version of tracks made by other rock artists officially after contacting the artists).

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Rui Ferreira
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Posted : Nov 29, 2005 15:07
At least we should give a tracklist when posting a on-line mix, to respect the artists and give credits to them
brij


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Posted : Nov 29, 2005 15:58
I've always given a tracklist for my mixes to credit the artists.
For a long time I have meant to link all of the tracklists to a relevant page (e.g psyshop etc.). the only reason I haven't is because I am lazy. Now that I've got a copy of dreamweaver there isn't really any excuse. Expect a change in my webpage soon.......

I often get people emailing me about my mixes boradcast on online radio stations asking where they can buy the tunes. All of my mix names include my web address, but Sundrop is right that most mixes just put a DJ name. I guess the effort I put into changing the webpage saves me time replying to emails.

Perhaps we should make it standard practice to put a web address in the title of the mix, so that it is easy for the listener to find the tracklist and artist links.           www.BarakaRecords.com/brij.htm

www.myspace.com/djbrij
andrew interchill
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Posted : Nov 30, 2005 04:19
Linking to an onliner is better than nothing... for sure

but if you wish to deliver more benefit to the artists [your choice], then link to their sites, or to the labels sites.

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