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traveller
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 16:54
If the origin of the term "Scandinavia" is derived from the "island Scandza" which was mostly inhabited by Finnic tribes then technically/historically speaking only Finns should be considered to being Scandinavians.

However if "Scandinavia" means the viking culture stuff then for sure Iceland should be considered to be a part of it. I mean they speak ancient norwegian and stuff, don't they?

Anyways I'm fine with "Nordic countries". I just doubt many people outside of Europe have ever even heard of "Nordic". Perhaps a better name for the section would be "Finland and countries nearby"?           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 17:43

I love the name "Scandinavia"

it reminds me "scandinavian trance", or those old compilations "Scandosounds".
What a great psy stuff coming from this region.
traveller
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 18:08
I bet the origin of the word "Scandza" is actually "Suomi kansa" (= finn people in finnish) which has just sounded like "Scandza" to Tacitus
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 20:00
A namechange is not to be expected, scandinavia is fine. And Iceland can come to

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Posted : Mar 7, 2009 10:48
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On 2009-03-04 18:08, traveller wrote:
I bet the origin of the word "Scandza" is actually "Suomi kansa" (= finn people in finnish) which has just sounded like "Scandza" to Tacitus




You could be partially right (i personally doubt it) but:
(note: there is some code trouble in the following.)


Scandinavia and Scania (Skåne) are considered to have the same etymology. Both terms are thought to be derived from the Germanic root *Skağin-awjō, which appears later in Old English as Scedenig and in Old Norse as Skáney.[22] The earliest identified source for the name Scandinavia is Pliny the Elder's Natural History, dated to the 1st century AD.
Various references to the region can also be found in Pytheas, Pomponius Mela, Tacitus, Ptolemy, Procopius and Jordanes. It is believed that the name used by Pliny may be of West Germanic origin, originally denoting Scania.[23] According to some scholars, the Germanic stem can be reconstructed as *Skağan- meaning "danger" or "damage" (English scathing, German Schaden).[24] The second segment of the name has been reconstructed as *awjo, meaning "land on the water" or "island". The name Scandinavia would then mean "dangerous island", which is considered to be a reference to the treacherous sandbanks surrounding Scania.[24] Skanör in Scania, with its long Falsterbo reef, has the same stem (skan) combined with -ör, which means "sandbanks".
In the reconstructed Germanic root *Skağin-awjō (the edh represented in Latin by t or d), the first segment is sometimes considered more uncertain than the second segment. The American Heritage Dictionary[25] derives the second segment from Proto-Indo-European *akwa-, "water", in the sense of "watery land". Gothic saiws, "lake" is one of the Germanic groups which include English sea and German See.[26] However, according to the Indo-European Dictionary (IEED), a research project of the Department of Comparative Indo-European Linguistics at Leiden University, the second segment may not have an Indo-European etymology. The IEED states that Uralic evidence has long been recognized for this segment, namely the Finnic saivo ("'transparent place in the sea'") and the Norwegian-Lappish saivvƒ ("'(holy) lake, idol'").[26] Some scholars have found a parallel between the Uralic evidence and the area's old mythology and belief systems, where the soul of mankind is believed to dwell in water until birth and return there after death.[26] IEED lists a Germanic reconstruction that indicates a similar connection to metaphysics, namely *saiwa-lō ("soul"), appearing as saiwala in Gothic and sēle in Old Frisian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#Etymology

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Posted : Sep 12, 2009 12:30
i guess its too cold out there , its shud be some sort of ice trance for ice people           " And as the gods have given us , so we return the gift " - Bill Cosmosis " Gift of the Gods "
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Posted : Jan 31, 2010 17:05
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On 2009-09-12 12:30, aliened wrote:
i guess its too cold out there , its shud be some sort of ice trance for ice people




It's not that cold in Iceland; especially winters are surprisingly mild. This month the weather has been pretty much like in Central Europe, +/- 5° C. Which is warm enough for trancing out in the open

Iceland is awesome! My big love... There is so much great music there, I'm especially fond of the Icelandic-sung Rock music. No idea of Psytrance though, but I think it's fine to have at least a few places on earth that rest uninfected!

BTW, about the term Scandinavia, I think it depends what cultural aspect we're talking about. If we consider the languages, "Scandinavia" would include Iceland and Faroe Islands, but not Finland. Yet talking about literature, it includes Iceland, Faroe Islands, Finland, and even Greenland (as they're all connected thorugh history. So it's a matter of aspects (at least that's what I'm being taught).          Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
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