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Posted : May 15, 2012 10:09:43
Been looking for a good drum machine for a while with some two basic requirements...
- Must have a sequencer (step/analog sequencer... basically something visual)
- Must be analog/synthesis based and not sample based, or both if something like that exists
After some research I found the ideal new machine is the Dave Smith Tempest...
But at over 2000$ that's about 4 times pricier than what I was looking for.
Then there is the KORG Electribe MX which is fairly cheap on Ebay
Just wanted to know if I was missing something ? Also is there a way of using a MIDI controller as a sequencer to run Drum VSTs ? My basic requirement is that it must be visual as programming drums on the piano roll is just a painstaking experience and not really the way to go if you'd like to jam live.
Thanks in advance!
Nectarios
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Posted : May 15, 2012 11:46
Pretty sure the Electribe is digital and adds a valve in the signal path.
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Posted : May 15, 2012 12:01
If your wanting to programme drum VSTs then you could look at Native Instrument Macshine.
MFB do an analogue drum machine that's relatively cheap so do Jomox but maybe higher price range. Both have step sequencer.
just ordered the Tempest, will be twiddling my thumbs until it get here
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Posted : May 16, 2012 08:59
@Nectarios ...Sorry forgot I had Analog in the name of this topic , was looking for something that is synthesis based, a complete analog signal path is ideal but good digital synthesis will also do, hence the openness to a VST+Midi step sequencer.
@MJ12... thanks for introducing the MFB. Fantastic machine. Saw a video of the 522 combined with a XoX.
Jomox Xbase 888 looks real heavy.
NI Macshine would be great but not a big fan of the 4x4 grid, looking for a midi controller has 16 in a row.
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Posted : May 16, 2012 11:35
Also found this genius video of a homecooked step sequencer using Ableton
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Posted : May 16, 2012 22:07
tempest is deep... really really deep. i played around with one in a store for a couple of hours. it's not just a sequencer or drum machine. it's a synth too. but it's not fully analog as "each of the six analog voices has two analog oscillators plus two digital oscillators (with a large bank of included samples)"
the tempest is heavy duty parameter operating and imo is not as intuitive as it could've/should've been. it's expensive but it has so much more to offer than any other drum machine. when you fully understand it's potential it'll blow your mind
the electribe has a good sound for being one of the cheaper ones. haven't tried one though. it looks very hands on.
i wouldn't buy a jomox or the likes since they're just bad clones of the tr-909. some jomox's have more possibilities than the 909 but soundwise imo there's a huge difference.
then thre's this:
http://www.elektron.se/products/machinedrum it's in the same price range as tempest and is very much hyped. i didn't like the samples on elektron's site but i guess i have to give it a try one day...
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Posted : May 25, 2012 10:37
While I dream of the Tempest will probably be going for the MFB522, would make a good companion for the xoxbox, ie, cheap build but with that monster analog sound of the acid house era.
Another video...
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Posted : Aug 26, 2012 11:32
Ended up getting the Maschine, not what I was initially looking for but after day 1 of playing around it turns out to be the all time best buy.
Completely takes you off the screen which is something I've been trying to do for years. Step sequencer even though is a 4x4 grid as as easy to program as a straight 16. Sampling is so clean that it makes you forget about synthesis especially after work flow is made so much quicker. Samples can by heavily edited internally along with tons of onboard effects and automation to create unique percussion. A single Swing knob is tied in to your entire pattern. All this without ever looking at your computer. Using this made me realize that it's a needless expense going for individual analog units when digital has become this powerful.
Thanks for all the inputs! Might go for the MFB522 someday but only for the character. In terms of getting down to it got my baby.
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Posted : Jan 9, 2015 12:22
2 and half years later, Maschine has become boring and uninspiring.
Still using it for studio drum tracks though, workflow with DAW integration is fast.
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Acidlabs Robokop is great http://www.acidlab.de I use the desktop to control my Vermona a DRM!!
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Posted : Jan 9, 2015 13:26
Even though your post is 2 years old, go for the 522. It just sounds GRRRRREEEEAAAATTTTTTTTT! (that was suppposed to be my Toni the Tiger voice
Especially the kick, I like it much better than the original 808 kick it is emulating. Right now my favorite kick in the world. However, it is very simple.
But, since you first posted this Elektron released the Analog Rhythm, my friend has it and its pretty awesome, as it combines analog synthesis with sampling capabilities and the crazy elektron sequencer.
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Posted : Jan 16, 2015 08:48
I have an Electribe ESX it is more the drum sampler. The MX is more a synthsizer when you compare this both. The ESX has a few special drum modes. I use it just for recording my voice over the valve and using then the effects and that very rarely.
Wouldn't buy it again tbh.
I'ma convinced future technology plug in freak always looking for progress I guess.
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