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Lale
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 19:01:52
ok, i tryed with my bad english.

do you have some tipps how i create this amazing bassline.
i know the basics and my basslines are not so bad, but what about this? Somebody tipps? Wich vst/synth?

link to bassline







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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 21:39
It's just a simple 2 note saw bassline - I fail to see how this is amazing at all, but anyways...

Same as every other psy bass....I hear nothing special about this at all, just the regular filter/amp/env settings. No resonance, link cutoff to an envelope with no sustain, no attack, no release, just a bit of decay. Link Velocity to Cutoff as well if you want to introduce a little variation per note.

I'm 100% sure Sylenth can do this really well, and the pattern is really simple too....

In a quarter of a bar you have 4x 1/16th note slots...

1st one is for the kick, leave the second one blank, fill in the 3rd and 4th slots and adjust note length to taste.

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zabot
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 22:51
this ...

Basslines
http://forum.isratrance.com/the-mother-of-all-basslines-thread/

and practice... good luck

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Lale
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Posted : Aug 3, 2011 12:23
i dont have waves for a little sub bass under my bassline. (more deep)
do you now another solution (free)?
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Aug 3, 2011 13:38
you don't need any sub bass for this kind of bassline.
Just simple saw with tight envelope. you have to have also good kick and adjust proper side chain between them.           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 3, 2011 21:34
IMO you don't need sidechain for this style as there is more than enough space between the kick and the two bass notes...unless you have an absurdly long kick.

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Upavas
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Posted : Aug 3, 2011 23:27
I always sidechain...           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 4, 2011 00:03
Well, maybe I don't understand something properly then...

You have a kick, you have a bass. You put a compressor on the bass channel which is sidechained to the kick so that every time the kick comes in the bass ducks the kicks frequencies...

Depending on the compressor settings you can either get a dramatic pumping effect or subtle tightening/cleaning up the low end to make sure everything sits nicely. Lot's of other stuff too.

However, the compressor only kicks in when the kick is playing, so in a traditional 3x 16th note bassline the compressor will only be active on the first note.

So, with the OP's youtube video in question where there are only 2 notes what would the purpose of the sidechain compressor be, considering that the kick is not close to the bass notes?

I mean, I guess if you were using a kick with a really long tail or something? It's entirely possible that I'm just not understanding some other use of sidechain compressors and if so I'd be glad to be made aware of it            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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supergroover
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Posted : Aug 4, 2011 00:04
So do I but you don't really need it because the notes don't overlap eachother, unless you have a long release.           soundcloud.com/supergroover
orange
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Posted : Aug 4, 2011 01:06
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On 2011-08-04 00:03, willsanquil wrote:
Well, maybe I don't understand something properly then...

You have a kick, you have a bass. You put a compressor on the bass channel which is sidechained to the kick so that every time the kick comes in the bass ducks the kicks frequencies...

Depending on the compressor settings you can either get a dramatic pumping effect or subtle tightening/cleaning up the low end to make sure everything sits nicely. Lot's of other stuff too.

However, the compressor only kicks in when the kick is playing, so in a traditional 3x 16th note bassline the compressor will only be active on the first note.

So, with the OP's youtube video in question where there are only 2 notes what would the purpose of the sidechain compressor be, considering that the kick is not close to the bass notes?

I mean, I guess if you were using a kick with a really long tail or something? It's entirely possible that I'm just not understanding some other use of sidechain compressors and if so I'd be glad to be made aware of it




you got the sidechain thing in reverse...
you duck the bassline in relation to the kick!

and yes in the standard double or even 3ple basslines sidechain isn't necessary if the envelopes are tight.          http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 4, 2011 01:10
Isn't that what I said? o.O            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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diskonekt
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Posted : Aug 4, 2011 08:00
Yes, you were right.
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dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Aug 4, 2011 13:28
Quote:

On 2011-08-03 21:34, willsanquil wrote:
IMO you don't need sidechain for this style as there is more than enough space between the kick and the two bass notes...unless you have an absurdly long kick.

All about the envelopes/filter.




i hear obviously sidechain at the track he uploaded.
i think in almost all fullon and progressive tracks there is some side chain.
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supergroover
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Posted : Aug 4, 2011 14:51
sure.. you can sc pads, fx etc. but you don't need to sc the bass. that was the issue. Or do you hear it on the bass?
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dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Aug 4, 2011 15:53
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On 2011-08-04 14:51, supergroover wrote:
sure.. you can sc pads, fx etc. but you don't need to sc the bass. that was the issue. Or do you hear it on the bass?





i hear it.           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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