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Fragletrollet
Fragletrollet

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Posts :  1748
Posted : Jul 31, 2006 22:25
Quote:

On 2006-07-31 05:27, piXan wrote:
there is nothing like a cold beer in a hot psy trance festival morning it rocks!!!! in fact thats the highlight of the party for me. (obviously after a night of chemical warfare) hehehe




You definetively have a point. Noone should be able to take the pleasure of drinking an icecold beer (best if combined with a spliff ) when the heat is starting to kick in in the morning at the dancefloor... its great
Katja

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Posts :  103
Posted : Jul 31, 2006 23:32
I can't live few days without beer...i think i have a drinking problem:)
ben
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  108
Posted : Aug 1, 2006 02:33
i think the thing is more how much u drink or take of any kind of drugs....
i don't really get all these comments about alcohol is for this music of that music...
i think it depends on each person... if u like psy without alcohol fine but why forbid other people from doing it, esp considering the amount of really wasted people there r @ psy parties (on other drugs)....
*Girl*


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Posts :  54
Posted : Aug 3, 2006 17:10
everywher not only in a party ..............
DAHAKA


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Posts :  180
Posted : Aug 3, 2006 21:18
I love the beer and vodka... specially in the parties           UGLY BEFORE!
psypox
Psypox / Bufo

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Posts :  768
Posted : Aug 3, 2006 22:18
Yeah Beer and psytrance is the best combi imo!


Beer is the biggest inspiration on the Bufo album           www.myspace.com/psypox
errorhead

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Posts :  300
Posted : Aug 3, 2006 23:14
Jesus Made Beer
The Wedding at Cana and How Jesus
Turned Water into Beer (not wine)

Cue the lightning.

I hope that nobody will be surprised to hear it, and I hope that nobody wants to burn me at the stake for pointing it out, but the Bible was not originally written in English. The modern-day Bible is a translated hand-me-down of an ancient text. It has been translated and re-translated countless times over the centuries. The oldest Bible texts were written in Aramaic, the common language of the Middle East during Jesus' time. Scholars who have studied the ancient text suggest that Jesus actually turned water into beer, not wine.

The original Aramaic text talks about "strong drink" and "lines of ale vats". But what other evidence is there to support the claim that Jesus' miracle actually involved making beer?

First of all, grains were the principle crops in the Middle East. Grapes were rare. It is logical to assume that the "strong drink" mentioned in the ancient Aramaic text was indeed beer, which is made largely from grain. Historians also know that during Jesus' time Egypt was exporting a significant amount of beer to the entire Mediterranean region. There's no evidence that anyone was exporting wine on any kind of large scale. Further supporting the idea of Jesus making beer are other ancient texts which have revealed that in the Middle East beer was the common "strong drink" for at least a thousand years before Jesus ever came on the scene. The Hymn to Ninkasi is one such text, dating back to 1800 BC. In conclusion, beer was common and wine was a rare, practically non-existent delicacy.

When the Bible was translated, centuries after the fact, "strong drink" was replaced by "wine". Beer was considered the commoner's drink, while wine was considered an upscale beverage reserved for the elite. At the time of translation, wine was savored during fine meals by the culturally enlightened. Beer was swilled by ignorant peasants. Ignorant peasants were not doing the translating.

Translators wanted to suggest that Jesus would only offer the best to his friends and family. That's why they interpreted "strong drink" to mean wine. Everything else we know of Jesus would suggest that such pretentiousness was not at all his style. Jesus did not make a habit of sitting down and breaking bread with Roman Governors and others of the higher classes. The Roman elite would have been the only ones with access to wine. Back in the day, Jesus and the Roman's didn't get along so well.

We fail to think of Jesus' life in terms of his time in history. We often think of Jesus in terms of the religious icon that he has become - A bearded white man wearing Birkenstocks. Most of us probably imagine him delivering the Sermon on the Mount in English. Blame it on Monty Python.

Old Woman - "What did he say about the Greeks?"

Brian - "Not the Greeks, 'the meek.' He said the meek shall inherit the earth."

Old Woman - "Oh, that's nice. They have a helluva time."

Methinks the old woman misinterpretted what he said. Imagine that.

If we think of Jesus and consider the historical context, we see him as a hero to the common people, fighting against the oppressive establishment of his day. As such, Jesus surely would have provided the people with beer, not wine. In fact, it's likely that Jesus' people didn't even know what wine was.

The context and magnitude of Jesus' miracle is not changed by this interpretation of the original text. Because the Bible has been translated from and to so many different languages by people with their own agendas, we have to accept that there are some factual if not contextual inaccuracies. I am no less impressed by the miracle of turning water into beer.

To further assure myself of eternal damnation, I'd like to point out that it is also very likely, if not certain, that it was beer which was served at the last supper. The blood of Christ was beer! Furthermore, a historical and anthropological study has suggested that Noah's arc was actually a barge hauling beer on the Euphrates. Cue the lightning.

xrust
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  63
Posts :  1742
Posted : Aug 3, 2006 23:34
HALELUYA

(and that was my 500th post,i think i will go for a beer )          Signature:



NetroSysteM
NetroSystem

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Posts :  381
Posted : Aug 3, 2006 23:35
I like alcohol so much, with trance or without it.
The alcohol is so different satla from drugs..
anyway it doesn't matter becuase in the dance floor everybody want to see smiles & karahana also.

Peace.           EP Netrosystem - Real story (Ultravision records) out NOW!!!
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traveller
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posts :  3803
Posted : Aug 4, 2006 01:51
yesh

me thinks vodka/jägermeister redbull works magic


beer too..
          "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
parapsyched
Scratch 22

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Posts :  548
Posted : Aug 4, 2006 05:56
i just think alchohol is one of the worst drugs ever.. regardless of trance music or any other kind. its just bad ! guess i`m only nto the psychadelic drugs...
for me a drug that just makes you more stupid is not a good thing...
i`ll admit a glass of good whisky once in while is nice... or some wine every now and then. but no trance with `em thats for sure. that combination just makes me feel bad or should i say make me feel baaaarf.....
          if u dig deep enough u just might reach the sky...

"dream is destiny"

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Aluxe
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  725
Posted : Aug 4, 2006 08:37

Well like the old saying goes: a beer a day keeps the doctor away. (Or was that an apple?)

Anyways, I totally like to have the freedom of at least having a beer in a party. You might argue that offering hard alcohol in a big party can be a bad idea but beer, come on its no big deal.


traveller
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posts :  3803
Posted : Aug 4, 2006 14:24
Quote:

On 2006-08-04 05:56, parapsyched wrote:

for me a drug that just makes you more stupid is not a good thing...





Ah you must be talking about extacy?

Ever heard of Hemingway?
          "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
xrust
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  63
Posts :  1742
Posted : Aug 4, 2006 17:45
Quote:

On 2006-08-04 14:24, traveller wrote:


Ever heard of Hemingway?





or charles bukowski??

anyway,it is time for the stupid and useless info of the day
beer is more apropriate for drink in the months that they dont contain the letter "r"in their name           Signature:



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