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Lazarus.92
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Posted : Dec 10, 2014 20:39:12
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Hi folks. This time i want to ask you guys who have Snow , are you happy to have it , ofc i want Desktop with much more knobs and voices and 16 layer channels , but its to expensive for me , i want to buy Snow and play with it , have nord lead 2x but cant record , look my topic for my problem with recording midi notes to audio file , having latency . And i want to buy access snow , little beast .
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Dec 11, 2014 00:15
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It's a very nice synth! The engine is the same, your interaction with it won't be quite the same, because you'll be lacking easy access to the most important parameters - but you still have some assignable knobs in there that you can use for tweaking!
the only things, besides that is the difference in terms of polyphony and only 4 parts for multi mode.
if you want Virus and don't have/ not willing to pay the cash for the bigger brother, then it's a no brainer! you can't go wrong |
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Lazarus.92
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Posted : Dec 11, 2014 00:25
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yup, better to save money for big one and have the big beast, better sound from output mode then usb sending sound to pc ? |
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Lazarus.92
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Posted : Dec 11, 2014 00:25
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yup, better to save money for big one and have the big beast, better sound from output mode then usb sending sound to pc ? |
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smoker
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Posted : Dec 11, 2014 01:54
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Try
1. Change Buffer Size
Not Help Then Try
2. Change Computer With Good Process
Not Help Then Try
3.Change Audio Interface with Firewire or thunderbolt (USB SUCKS)........
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Dec 11, 2014 16:05
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Don't know if it's better! Only you can answer that one! I mean, the snow is the exact same synth! It's got all of the Virus sound.
I personally think that synths like the Virus and the Nords have very good user interfaces, simple enough for you to get lost in the sound and develop an intuitive feel for the instrument, something akin of thinking hands tweaking by themselves - if you know what I mean...
But there's so many pros using the snow and happy with it! Depends on your workflow, your cash flow, and how much a few more knobs matter to you.
Even with the big brother, 16 parts is not a given... I mean, specially if you're using highly complex patches, it can run out of voices with just 4. The thing is: you can only go as far as the DSP power allows you to. So you're probably going to bounce down to audio anyways.
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Lazarus.92
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Posted : Dec 11, 2014 21:43
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Very nice, i m sure that i will buy snow and be so fuckenhappy with it , cause i will tweak it and bounce to audio file like you said.
Desktop is very good and pro but little brother snow if i am right is the same synth like desktop only i can use 4 parts not 16 like desktop , but i think i will be good with it .
DSP power on Snow and Big Virus is the same , right ?
I will expect more comments about this guys , from experience who have snow and sold it to buy big one , or something about what big one can and little dont  |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Dec 11, 2014 22:20
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DSP power is not quite the same, hence the 16 parts vs 4. The difference is, the exact same engine can generate something like 32 voices (snow or virus c), and something like 80-90 voices on desktop ti2, not so much on the ti. Keyboard and Desktop models are exactly the same, only difference being the keyboard.
But the synth is the same for all those, exact same sound and features. If you're happy with the 4 parts, go for it |
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Lazarus.92
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Posted : Dec 13, 2014 00:13
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WOW MATE , TI2 DESKTOP ROCKS . I will w8 , save money and buy real best , then nord and ti2 will create sounds that punch youre face.
That ti2 can make sounds that no one software plugin can , they can be a replic to virus and nord but , hardware is one and software other thing , so virus ti2 is best solution , then good acoustic to the room , some bass traps and few wall panells i think will have good work |
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 13, 2014 01:05
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tbh honest you wontt make much difference between a virus and a plugin in a tune,it may lead you to make better sound and there is loads of presets too.. but many plugins with great fx on tops can sound similar |
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Lazarus.92
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Posted : Dec 13, 2014 07:33
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srsly , why then guys buy it , when we can have that sound on plugin ? |
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fraxi
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Posted : Dec 13, 2014 08:22
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I don't see any reason to buy TI2. It has only 25% stronger DSP so you will not feel much difference. You can buy TI1 much cheaper than TI2, so if you don't want to run all the tracks from it live you should conside older version but as freesbeehead wrote, you wil bounce tracks to audio anyway...
Maybe it's just placebo but it seems to me that virus unlike plugins sits very well in the mix and I don't have to EQ it hard. Almost everything I tweak on virus sounds good, it's not so easy with plugs.
It is also a real thing, so it's fun to play it (I rarely use Total Integration which kills that feeling) and inspires me a lot.
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 15, 2014 15:30
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yeah with the plug it might need more work when i sold my C with regret as i needed cash at that time i checked if can do my fav sound with plugins and it was good enought for the one i was abble to recreate. i think more than the sound quality of the synth, it s how everyhting lead you to create good sound with ease, finding sweet spot ect that matter a lot specially for a workhorse synth like virus that you can use for lot of things, for this i found it good, more intuitive than many softsynth were i stuggled more to program but this could be personal.. if you have the cash you will probably don't regret buying it but yeah plugs can sound very similar specially in the mix once processed and with fx.
if you wanna check just by curiostity listen some preset bank of the virus and massive/ sylenth ect made by the same guy for example.. it not really a way of comparing but it will give you a idea of the sound caractere till you try one |
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 15, 2014 15:59
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check this dunno if these are great programed patch but you get a idea of the caractere of the synths https://soundcloud.com/standalone-music
here you cna ear that still the old es2 could do the trickk..some friends still use mainly this with great result.
synth like virus and massive can sound easily a bit dark with mayb low mids bump to me , i dont know how to explain it, but the tonal balance is a bit weird and not flat /neutral..but it can be a plus for some sound and might give a impression of warmth..but to me it give the impression the sound is never really right ,it annoy me.. dunno if anyone feel the same?
these day i think i would enjoy more a blofeld , it s not as versatile , don't have many feature but i m more into that sort of sound caractere for now.. the wavetables ,the filters, the combs.. |
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 15, 2014 16:36
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i mentioned here many times but to me, for a modern sound that is with zero mud and really cut..synth that are flat in tonal balance are easier to work with.. with neutral you can make it fat or dark as you want but also clean and brights , making the synth more versatile.
nice detailed crystal clear highs is part of the spectrum that is often overlooked in synth to me but it s often the part where the synth suck the much it seems. |
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