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montezuma
Blisargon Demogorgon

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Posted : Aug 13, 2003 19:57
i think that artist need to be payed but if he plays shit music or if he had a bad mixing he dont need to take money becouse he is not dj if he is soing this otherwise he need to be payed that much what is his price
boooom
nobody_3
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Posted : Aug 13, 2003 22:01
Everybody can have a bad day. So if you dont do your work good enough one day because you have a off day do you also think you should not be paid?

I totally disagree with you !
Mike A
Subra

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Posted : Aug 13, 2003 22:13
I'm sure the the DJ himself doesn't enjoy giving a bad set, and the damage to his mood and reputation is enough for a punishment
Khopat
Khopat

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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 18:38
read this ....
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php?topic=20059&forum=39
Arie Molecular
Molecular

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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 22:20
more to that...
if an artists/dj is playing bad set the artist/dj is the one who will have the choice if to made discount or not.

but in this days, there are some parties that if an artists/dj is even playing better then ever he doesnt get paid           Don't Let Yourself Get Attached To Anything
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montezuma
Blisargon Demogorgon

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Posted : Aug 15, 2003 03:02
so you are write you can have a bad day but the music in your cd case is the same so if you have bad day you can have a bad mix but puting your good music from your cd case will be enough
what you think guys
boom
Yuli
Retired

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Posted : Aug 15, 2003 10:22
I think that if dj has a bad day and doesn't seem to connect to the crowd too well he should be beaten with broomsticks on his feet 120 times and then banished with disgrace from the party           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Dushan
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 15, 2003 15:08
hehe ... lol !
agnindhana
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 18, 2003 09:19
one question to montezuma....if the dj plays an excellent set...does he get paid more money?
nobody4
Inactive User

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Posted : Aug 18, 2003 15:16
agnindhana: he shoots, he scores. what do you think about that, party organizers?

and for the israelies among us who's been to weddings - u probably saw sometime one of the guests going to the DJ and tipping him for playing good music...if this happens with simple wedding DJs (joke) then maybe we, 'or lagoyim' in the music world (as few of you cared to declare in http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php?topic=19920&forum=1&start=15) should follow through, no?           auspexx@compact-records.com
goaholix


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Posted : Aug 27, 2003 17:19
Quote:

On 2003-08-18 09:19, agnindhana wrote:
one question to montezuma....if the dj plays an excellent set...does he get paid more money?



Very good question !!
Christian
D-Nox

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Posts :  321
Posted : Aug 27, 2003 18:12
A good dj has to know how to mix, dosen`t matter if he has a good day or not. If the selection of the music is wrong then he`s not connected to the growd or he realy has a bad day.

Actually a DJ has to be part of the party if not he is on the wrong place. I mean I don`t need any DJ who`s not a part of the party.

this could be the beginning of a very long discussion.
P_Mac
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 27, 2003 23:05
iof the dj considers themselves professional, thereis no bad day
in theory at least!           
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Yuli
Retired

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Posted : Aug 28, 2003 13:46
A DJ is first of all human being, and as such is vulnerable to different moods as much as anyone else.. Professionals, should know how to deal with moods better than amateurs, but still, u can see at the highest levels of professionalism in other fields ( take Tennis for example ) how leading world players getting affected by a 'bad day'. So 'bad day' exists and there is nothing to do about it.. there are very very few DJs I know that know how to 'skip' a 'bad day'

Mixing technique has no connection to good day or bad day, since it is a matter how much the DJ puts work at home into the set that he plays in the party.. You can easily see if the DJs practices and works on his mixing skills, nu mixes and different combinations between trax or he just puts music without really knowing it.

Thanx god that some 40% of my set I know by heart ( since I wrote it ), otherwise being a DJ would be a serious hassle           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
krelm
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 28, 2003 16:58
Shit music or good music is all a matter of perspective. One man's poo is another's pot of gold. Moreover, the party organizer who books the DJ/artist for their party should know what they play and whether they are good or not. If you book a DJ or artist purely on name (or price or favors or whatever reason), and they end up not being very good, that is on the party organizer's shoulders, IMO.

When I used to throw parties, the only times I ever booked DJs without having actually heard them before, I always asked opinions from people I know if they were good or not. Other than that, I always heard the DJ (live or demo) before I booked them.

On the other hand, I don't think a DJ should make themselves available for bookings if they have no idea about track selection, connection with the crowd, or how to mix....those are basic skills for one to call themself a DJ, IMO. It is one thing to occasionally trainwreck or pull out a track that loses the dancefloor energy....DJs are only human and make mistakes. It is another thing to be on the decks, having no idea how to mix or program a set. Go back and practice some more.

But if you agree on an amount to pay somebody before a party, you should pay them that amount, no matter how they play. Period. If you don't like them, then learn from the mistake and don't book them next time.
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