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Ableton 8 specific Psy Tricks!

mudpeople
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Posted : Mar 2, 2012 17:43
ive experimented using the sidechain feature on the gate and filter, its handy for stuff occupying the same freq range, when you bring in another instrument. Also it can add character to the mix adding something of a 'bumpy' feel in an otherwise uniform sound.

As for Max for Live;

I LOVE THE PROGRAM CHANGE KNOB
THE ML185 RULES along with everything Monolake made
neur0 rules too, basically its an Audio Damage Axon clone
Axis Mundi's tools are also nice
cant forget MIDI Quantize
and for us who cant use Automap theres RockBottom
the open/close group device is handy too
various timers come in handy
the Nwdlbots set is a neat thing too
also the 303 emu CK.acid is pretty good
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Posted : Mar 3, 2012 01:36
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whats RockBottom?

cant google it :|
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ok, found it.

its a max app for live ;P


willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 7, 2012 23:22
Max for live is the shit.

I always wanted "global LFOs" in ableton, like a LFO that was external to your VSTs and ableton devices that could affect multiple parameters from different tracks all using the same controls.

Well now you can do that. In the latest version of Max for live there is an "LFO" device in the Max Audio Effect folder and it is fucking great.

My first experiment with it was to map it to the Time value of a Ping Pong delay set to Repitch mode, crazy tape delay mayhem!

Super super useful device            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 13, 2012 21:37
If you do a hefty amount of audio processing with consolidation, freezing, etc at the end of a project you will have a ton of large, useless files in your samples folder.

Before you mix your track save your project into a new folder and do 'collect all and save'.

Then delete your old project folder. My project folders are usually between 4-8 gigs before this process, and usually around 2-3 gigs afterwards.

After a while this space adds up!            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 28, 2012 19:26
For anyone who uses reddit, there is an advanced ableton subreddit starting up today and I just became one of the mods for it, check it out and add some content if you like!

http://www.reddit.com/r/advancedableton            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 31, 2012 00:38
Amazing unlinked envelope video



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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 2, 2012 00:53
Just wrote up a detailed explanation of the newest version of my live set complete with live pack and way more paragraphs than you probably want to read. For a while I had been using a DJ template and a Live Set template, thinking they had to be separate...but now I have unified them into One. Enjoy!

http://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedAbleton//comments/rofv8/how_do_you_perform_with_ableton/

If anyone else would like to contribute to the thread over on the AdvancedAbleton subreddit by all means do!            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 12, 2012 01:31
Wow...i just got a really impressive result out of putting two Saturator instances on the master, first one in Sinoid Fold with +6 drive -6 output at ~15% wet, and then another one on Analog clip with +6 drive -6 output and 100% wet.

When I mix I aim for -6 db on the master fader, but often there are still peaks and whatnot, so I'll often 'cheat' by putting in a limiter or a saturator on analog clip with +6 drive -6 output to eat the peaks and keep the mix at -6 before I put it through Ozone.

But damn, the two saturators made the mix really solid, gave it a much deeper fuller body. Going to start using parallel saturation more in the future for sure.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 20, 2012 00:46
Been really digging live's arpeggiator device for melodic inspiration these days. As a basic example, I took a couple 1bar length notes in a scale and pattern that I liked and set the arp to 1/16th, ~50% gate, and set the shift to Minor and in the root note of my track. Then set it to 5 steps and -2 for distance.

Then, I created a new midi track, set the input of the new midi track to the track that the arpeggiator is on, arm the new midi track and then hit record and play at the beginning of the arp pattern. Now instead of long notes I have all the 1/16th MIDI notes in a new clip - and unlike in the arp I can move notes around exactly as I want them to avoid the loopy and rigid feel of a lot of arp sequences.

Also happened upon a fun crossfader trick for arp sequences....in the track I'm doing now, I have a little melody that comes before the kick/bass, and I wanted to do one long note before the drop but then afterwards have the arp come in from the same synth....but going from long note to arp sounded too quick.

So, I bounced the long note to audio, then bounced that same long note arp'd. Then I cut out the second half of the first clip and the first half of the second clip, put them next to each other on the same track, and crossfaded them together. Sounds good, man! You can also get a lot of cool stuff out of making a copy of an audio clip, reversing the copy, then chopping it up like above and crossfading it into itself.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 24, 2012 05:10
Tried to make a tutorial video about how I work with setting up my sets with ableton + rapid evolution. here are the cringe worthy results





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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 30, 2012 07:20
Like stretchy laser noises? Well I do, and they're stupid easy to make with ableton's Frequency Shifter unit. Chuck it on a melody or pad or pretty much anything really and crank the Amount up to max with a ramp up or down LFO, 100% wet, and then automate the frequency and Rate parameters from their max down to their min value using nice curves as a starting point. Now add in more interesting automation variety along the way within Frequency and Rate and Phase for weirdness and added laser awesome.

these sounds also react very well to audio processing tricks. Get a nice couple bars of laser action then freeze and flatten it down to audio and get in there and start chopping sections up and warping them, transposing them, reverse and stutter etc. sounds good.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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mubali
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Posted : May 1, 2012 18:26
For even more functionality and the ability to do lots of crazy things with live WITHOUT having to use max for live.... I'm finding this thing is completely vital for the concept of live that I'm working on... plus it's FREE!!

http://beatwise.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=production&action=display&thread=716

CLYPHX FTW!!!!!!!!!!           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : May 1, 2012 22:59
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On 2012-05-01 18:26, mubali wrote:
For even more functionality and the ability to do lots of crazy things with live WITHOUT having to use max for live.... I'm finding this thing is completely vital for the concept of live that I'm working on... plus it's FREE!!

http://beatwise.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=production&action=display&thread=716

CLYPHX FTW!!!!!!!!!!




Thanx for this! Will try it today!
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Jun 1, 2012 14:35
@ mubali:
ClyphX is so great! So many actions with the easy way!
Hey thanks again for this one
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Jun 1, 2012 14:40
Ok i have to say that i didnt gave much time in Max for Live and yesterday i was searching about this...

Realy great and useful devices for sure! I've already tried the Dub Siren
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/712/audiolemon-dub-siren and
Schwarzonator II
http://www.ableton.com/library/schwarzonator/
both was great!

So guys any other devices that worth to check? there are so many stuff...
http://www.maxforlive.com/index.php

Thanks in advance
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