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A new dawn for the mexican Scene?

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Posted : Jan 29, 2010 20:07:13
With the return of Time and Space last november, and now Tierra magica Is the mexican scene on a rebirth?

This year also SOE 10 year anniversary for sure will be another great party.

I feel in the air very good vibes for psy at least in Mexico city, with fresh line ups, well produced parties and the return of old timers.

I will hope to see also Deliria's return with another party, and why not maybe all promoters could unite for a big celebration 2012.           "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
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Posted : Jan 30, 2010 04:53
I dont think so ,
the only good vibe party i have seen in years its MAIA production, defintely eveyrbody do the effort , but the quality is not just that easy , have a solid concept as maia is difficult, plus this other people have been doing partys all over the years and this quality had not been found there.

this is my opinion .
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Posted : Feb 1, 2010 11:53
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On 2010-01-29 20:07:13, Login wrote:
With the return of Time and Space last november, and now Tierra magica Is the mexican scene on a rebirth?

This year also SOE 10 year anniversary for sure will be another great party.

I feel in the air very good vibes for psy at least in Mexico city, with fresh line ups, well produced parties and the return of old timers.

I will hope to see also Deliria's return with another party, and why not maybe all promoters could unite for a big celebration 2012.




Well first of all define "fresh line ups" cause yes u can have a reborn of partys, make them nicely and well produced but if the orgs are bringing the same artists all over again i dont think that this is a way to make it "new"
A new fresh vibe for psy partys should have beside all the production and deeco and brands and blof, more than that it needs new music with new artists with fresh vibes and mostly of all it needs simplicity.

I think that yes the old times were nice and with all this great partys we understood a point and we all became one and blablabla but this music is electronic -breaking throu- music, that should push forward in sounds ideas and technology, cause actualy this was the reason why 10 years ago u liked this music. So at the end we should not call this a "rebirth of psytrance partys", instead we should call them "retro partys". But really the past is gone lets focus on the present.

For me is really a waste to invest so much money and promotion and deco and flyers and all the shit to have old line ups that cost thousands of euros, so at the end it become like a club in open air, really this feels simply wrong! For me a psychedelic party need to have spirit to be humble even a bit hippie , u dont need MAIA and blofers and more new blofers. u need SPIRIT u need SIMPLICITY.
Keep it Real!
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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 18:17
Yep!
A new rebirth..?
Who says that..? haha.

There is no scene, there is no spirit, there is not true love..
There is only intereset in make money..

We need new people (orgs), new places and a new consciousness..
But is México.. and everything can happen.

And yes.. i miss the parties.. i have some years without trance parties.

The trance experience is in your mind.           ::: Dance when you're broken up, Dance when you're perfectly free, Dance in your Blood :::
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 08:33
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On 2010-02-04 18:17, KuKulKan wrote:
Yep!
A new rebirth..?
Who says that..? haha.

There is no scene, there is no spirit, there is not true love..
There is only intereset in make money..

We need new people (orgs), new places and a new consciousness..
But is México.. and everything can happen.

And yes.. i miss the parties.. i have some years without trance parties.

The trance experience is in your mind.




damn finally some sense!

i agree with you man.

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Jolly_TGB
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Posted : Feb 6, 2010 03:31
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On 2010-01-30 04:53, Galaxy Trip wrote:
I dont think so ,
the only good vibe party i have seen in years its MAIA production, defintely eveyrbody do the effort , but the quality is not just that easy , have a solid concept as maia is difficult, plus this other people have been doing partys all over the years and this quality had not been found there.

this is my opinion .


I think that when maia started making parties, if i'm not wrong it was the first time&space, the scene were allready fucked up, by people who didin't give a shit about the true spirit and jumped to the parties.. pushing party producers to make great productions as the first time&space was, but all surrounded by metal and fat guys with dogs, and one as a trance freak partying with the fear of being stolen! (and this was beacuse media made too much noise about electronic music in those days bringing wrong ppl to the scene)wtf

also, what it's a good production party?? having nice bathrooms for "vip" ppl... I don't think that the "vip" thing goes well with psychedelia... true psychedelic parties were suposed to unite the tribes in a spiritual gathering, and not spliting the ppl in the ones that can and the ones that can't... it's weird but true

for me the parties that had the true spirit of psychedelic trance in mexico took place before first time&space, some of them by the guys of family tree or ollin lakech, those were good times!

and it's nothing against maia or any other actual party producer, it's just my tought... i had a good time in the last one, enjoyed so much hallucinogen and shpongle set, also had a great time with lunar sound, but i wish that parties were just as the first true psychedelic ones, with complete psychedelic line ups... look at the big festivals in europe... ozora 2009, that's nice line up for me...

anyway... i'll keep vibrating for better times and better parties here in mexico

good moons freaks

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Posted : Feb 6, 2010 22:27
I will just take moment to breath after your words, cause is nothing than the truth.

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Posted : Feb 13, 2010 20:39
nothing near to the reallity here in mexico!!doesn't?











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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 08:05
the psy scene in mexico died .

also lot of people who used to listen psychedelic and progress trance , move to minimal and tech house.

now the good party raves are when the line up is full of tech house . believe it or not , less garbage, more nice girls, great music and production, and less monkey chakas people .lol

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Serag
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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 13:09
let my try to understand ur point here mate,

so u are saying that the goood partys are the ones that have "less garbage, more nice girls, great music and production, and less monkey chakas people .lol"
is this an ironi or u are talking seriously?
cause if u are talking seriously i think u are wrong.
a good party is exaclty the oposite of this.
les garbage yes, i agree it shold be clean, but the rest is seriously what killed psy trance in mexico.
the VIP people the nice girls the good minimal techno super nice produced and all the coke that u could take just to feel part of something. all this is SHIT.
i prefer chakas and some garbage around, plus not so nice girls and maybe not so "nice" music BUT REAL.
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Posted : Feb 19, 2010 21:12
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On 2010-02-19 13:09, Serag wrote:
let my try to understand ur point here mate,

so u are saying that the goood partys are the ones that have "less garbage, more nice girls, great music and production, and less monkey chakas people .lol"
is this an ironi or u are talking seriously?
cause if u are talking seriously i think u are wrong.
a good party is exaclty the oposite of this.
les garbage yes, i agree it shold be clean, but the rest is seriously what killed psy trance in mexico.
the VIP people the nice girls the good minimal techno super nice produced and all the coke that u could take just to feel part of something. all this is SHIT.
i prefer chakas and some garbage around, plus not so nice girls and maybe not so "nice" music BUT REAL.



Please name somethings you consider a good party should have.

for me at least:

1.- Good music.- no matter if tis goa, psytrance, techno.. etc EDM is a family with a unique vibe for partyng, open minded people know to apreciate good music no matter what genre it is, if it makes you dance, your mind travel and touches your soul, then its good music.

2.- People with good vibe.- no matter their social class or look, the only thing that matters is that they come to have a good time, make friends, and listen to good music.

3.- Well organized.- Everything in its place, good bathrooms, good prices, good security, fast entrance, good sound.

Thats is talking about "commercial parties", if you want more underground parties its a whole different thing. Like the ones that were made in Xilitla or Palenque, or very veyr early, or like "The promised Land" at Tepoztlan last year.


which are your standars?           "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
Serag
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Posted : Feb 20, 2010 01:49
what are my standards?.. hum... i concider my self a free psychedelic person. i dont ask from the world im just there to help and give what i can, so i think i dont have standards.
and answering to ur question,
first of all u are talking about a "party" and i am talking about a "psychedelic trance party"
and for me a real psychedelic party is more about the vibe than anything else, u would not need good security cause the people would be respectfull, u would not need fast entrance cause the people would know how to behave, it doesnt matter the price as long as u will give what you promise as a party organizer, not like the ones that promotes fake line ups with broken promises.
for me, it really matters the music, cause there is psychedelic music made for the enrichment of the mind and the soul and just "electronic music" made just to have "fun", when u have real psychedelic music u have real psychedelic people who act behave and give from each other like brothers and sisters creating union and not the oposite, fortunately or unfortunately the kind of substances used at this spiritual gatherings are an important bond to what a psychedelic party needs to be a psychedelic party, again if u have people in non psychedelic substances u will not bring this vibration and therefore u will end having one more electronic music party but not psychedelic, we all know the psychedelic inductors that blend to this ideology, the rest are simply "drugs" without any near link to psychedelia.
simplicity is another important factor, cause the idea is to forget about any materialistic atachments so u can be really free to express ur spirit, a simple deco but with a positive message something to remark the psychedelic vibe and not huge instalations that only distract you, taking part of your visual freedoom.
the place would have to be in the nature free of fences or brikwalls.
so as u can see there are more important things than to have "all covered" and "super nice produced" to have a psychedelic party.
cheers

Jolly_TGB
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Posted : Feb 20, 2010 18:39
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On 2010-02-20 01:49, Serag wrote:
what are my standards?.. hum... i concider my self a free psychedelic person. i dont ask from the world im just there to help and give what i can, so i think i dont have standards.
and answering to ur question,
first of all u are talking about a "party" and i am talking about a "psychedelic trance party"
and for me a real psychedelic party is more about the vibe than anything else, u would not need good security cause the people would be respectfull, u would not need fast entrance cause the people would know how to behave, it doesnt matter the price as long as u will give what you promise as a party organizer, not like the ones that promotes fake line ups with broken promises.
for me, it really matters the music, cause there is psychedelic music made for the enrichment of the mind and the soul and just "electronic music" made just to have "fun", when u have real psychedelic music u have real psychedelic people who act behave and give from each other like brothers and sisters creating union and not the oposite, fortunately or unfortunately the kind of substances used at this spiritual gatherings are an important bond to what a psychedelic party needs to be a psychedelic party, again if u have people in non psychedelic substances u will not bring this vibration and therefore u will end having one more electronic music party but not psychedelic, we all know the psychedelic inductors that blend to this ideology, the rest are simply "drugs" without any near link to psychedelia.
simplicity is another important factor, cause the idea is to forget about any materialistic atachments so u can be really free to express ur spirit, a simple deco but with a positive message something to remark the psychedelic vibe and not huge instalations that only distract you, taking part of your visual freedoom.
the place would have to be in the nature free of fences or brikwalls.
so as u can see there are more important things than to have "all covered" and "super nice produced" to have a psychedelic party.
cheers





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Posted : Feb 25, 2010 01:40
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On 2010-02-20 01:49, Serag wrote:
what are my standards?.. hum... i concider my self a free psychedelic person. i dont ask from the world im just there to help and give what i can, so i think i dont have standards.
and answering to ur question,
first of all u are talking about a "party" and i am talking about a "psychedelic trance party"
and for me a real psychedelic party is more about the vibe than anything else, u would not need good security cause the people would be respectfull, u would not need fast entrance cause the people would know how to behave, it doesnt matter the price as long as u will give what you promise as a party organizer, not like the ones that promotes fake line ups with broken promises.
for me, it really matters the music, cause there is psychedelic music made for the enrichment of the mind and the soul and just "electronic music" made just to have "fun", when u have real psychedelic music u have real psychedelic people who act behave and give from each other like brothers and sisters creating union and not the oposite, fortunately or unfortunately the kind of substances used at this spiritual gatherings are an important bond to what a psychedelic party needs to be a psychedelic party, again if u have people in non psychedelic substances u will not bring this vibration and therefore u will end having one more electronic music party but not psychedelic, we all know the psychedelic inductors that blend to this ideology, the rest are simply "drugs" without any near link to psychedelia.
simplicity is another important factor, cause the idea is to forget about any materialistic atachments so u can be really free to express ur spirit, a simple deco but with a positive message something to remark the psychedelic vibe and not huge instalations that only distract you, taking part of your visual freedoom.
the place would have to be in the nature free of fences or brikwalls.
so as u can see there are more important things than to have "all covered" and "super nice produced" to have a psychedelic party.
cheers





While I agree with the general Idea, what you ask is basically not a commercial party, is a gathering of friends.

I think the "scene" has always been divided in to two the upper more mainstream one, and the more underground.

Parties like you describe still exist and happen from time to time, once a year maybe. But I think those parties are a total different story...They are not commercial, not for profit.

In the end for having a Psychedelic party. It doesnt matter what others do, but what you do. And if you are expecting all that from your fellow humans in order to have your super duper psychedelic party, youre wasting your time.


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Serag
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Posted : Feb 26, 2010 15:02
whatever.

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