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movek
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Posted : Apr 13, 2008 21:51:42
well .. i allways thought
that a forum like this could be useful
cause you all are openend mind people
people i can talk to and share my fears and dreams

The last 2 years a worrie is into my head
and i cannot let it out

our world turned to a fucking misserable place
people run like small bugs
our thought has been limited
economies are at the edge
the evolution polution is killing us
the energy suplies are not enough
people have no sense any more
they dont care , except how money are in their pockets.

we have to pass throught another level
and the deal is here,now ..or never
the time is short

so .. i turned to you
the people i think are diferend
think like me

what should we do ?
can we wake up others?
can we wake up ourselves?
or we will stay .. feed up with drugs (as they want)
talking about things that dont even matter

every movement of music
had a different point of view throught the years
they smash it

can we let them do the same with trance?
can we do something for the situation
as a trance community ?
and what is that we can do?

i was listening a song yesterday ..saying

"pws kai to efere o aiwnas
na mhn akouseis poihth"


that is the new age .. unfortunetly


thank you for reading these
sorry for my bad english

be well
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Apr 14, 2008 18:38
1. http://forum.isratrance.com/homogeneity-identity-politics-and-the-closing-of-the-trance-mind/

2. http://forum.isratrance.com/spontaneous-creativity-unity-and-the-opening-of-the-trance-mind/

Here you can find some very intersting opinions and answers to your questions........

Keep the faith!!!!           ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
Jedi_knight
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Posted : Apr 14, 2008 18:39





The magic is within us.........          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
PSYCHEDELICA-X


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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 09:37
no we are within magic find the way to embrace it!!!
globalism made everything around as fake!!open your eyes of your mind and heart!!!its the only way to see in the myst of this new age way of life!!!!!!!!!!!           ****PSYCHEDELICA-X****
THE Flying AGARIC

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Themistokleous 49 Exarxeia tel:210-3825306
wicc@


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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 11:59
WE ARE IN THE DARK AGES NOW PEOPLE
ppl now dont beleive in LOVE anymore
u show love and they take it as weakness (!!!)
Ppl now care only about themselves and the goodness they do to others
is only when iz good for themselves only
ppl now like some1 here have no understanding and compassion
and can do harm to others without trying to make it up later
only to serve themselves better
[ to go home with a car was nice fit that night to you baba
and you didnt care about the circumstances
and you took advance of my shock
and did it your way
by shouting and wanted to hit me to take the car
and now u say u didnt do it
and you are the reason you broke up my relation with my loved one
cozew he thinks i came with you to pass my time
is it possible? go with the man that was takin our car?? go with you that yelling at me bad words and say dont make me hit you???
but me bad tripy then i folowed our belongingz coze of fear wat might happen to them!
wich was mistake but was bad trip ]
this is a hamble example. of how can ppl harm you only to serve trhemselves.
this is why our world is like that
no love
only very few people are awaken and they are as clear as crystal
and yes in parties with music you can see who is enjoyin the trance beats and who is there for other reasons !
anyway thank u for ur time and i hope our world will turn to something better with the help
of the few lighted people on earth
p3ace

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MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 12:06
when we dream there are no rules
wicc@


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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 12:58
There are people who will try to tell you that love is a luxury and that life in all its miraculous beauty is less urgent right now than the need to retaliate against the forces of evil. I am here to tell you that unless we respond with love, we will certainly hand evil its great and final victory. Go out, right now, and plant yourself in the middle of that which you love most—the thing within you that is most alive. Now listen carefully, because as that love cracks your heart open, it will tell you exactly what this broken world needs from you. This is your holy work, and it cannot wait. Make it big this time. Make it so.

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Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 13:09
Quote:

On 2008-04-15 12:58, wicc@ wrote:
I am here to tell you that unless we respond with love, we will certainly hand evil its great and final victory. Go out, right now, and plant yourself in the middle of that which you love most—the thing within you that is most alive.


Too-fucking-right bro


What we can do is be the best people we can be. We can start by simply being nice to each other, focus on the positive aspects of our own lives rather than the negative aspects of other people's lives.
Spend our time and energy on building the things we like, instead of destroying the things we don't like.
Its an illusion to think that this place is full of forward thinking positive people simply because its a trance forum.
Look at these pages, how many people are actively positive, "being the changes the wanna see in the world" and how many are simply badmouthing each other for their taste in music?
How many users are spending time making the music they like and how many are spending time putting other people down?
This "open minded community" is infested with bitterness and negativity, just as much as the society that creates these problems you speak of.

Peace out.
          
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts
wicc@


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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 13:49
i much agree wit u bro i had this is mind, in the trance parties, where not so many ppl
come in the state of trance nowdayz. and i agree that the change to the world fo the better must first come within each of us
as individuals.
[quote] what should we do ?
can we wake up others?
can we wake up ourselves?
...and what is that we can do?
here are some useful tips:
Commit to your evolution
Dedicate yourself to personal evolution, and cultivate a relationship with yourself that is loving, patient and without judgment. Acknowledge that you are powerful, and that your thoughts, coupled with the heart energy, can create any reality you dream of. Be aware that your energy extends well beyond your physical body, and that you have the ability to affect the world around you simply by your presence, so you make the choice to live consciously and responsibly.
Choose love
Remember that there are two basic emotional expressions--love and fear--and that at any given moment each of us is either in a state of giving and receiving love or in a state of fear, calling out for love. Moment to moment, as often as possible, make the love choice.
Acknowledge your important role
Realize that you are involved in a great period of spiritual awakening, and that you can be a facilitator in this exciting shift in consciousness and heightened awareness by being a living love-example. Every moment offers an opportunity to serve in some way, even if simply by being an example of unconditional love (!!!) through your words, thoughts and actions. By doing so, you inspire others to do the same.
Be compassionate
Live with compassion and tolerance for all individuals and paths, even if you do not choose them for yourself. Understand that all paths eventually lead one back to their Source, no matter how they appear to our physical eyes.
Take time to be still
Give your mind and body a rest. Meditation not only relieves stress and creates balance, but in moments of silence you are more likely to perceive the messages of Spirit. A simple way to get started is to sit or lie down in a peaceful place and focus on your breathing. What can result is a greater sense of well-being, feelings of love and serenity, new insights, a solution to a problem, etc.
Be here now
Be willing to focus more on the present moment and relinquish attachment to the past or future. When you focus on what's happening right here and now your creative energy is more fully available to handle every situation with love, clarity and personal power.
Take responsibility
Shift from any tendency towards a victim mentality into personal responsibility for each and every moment of your life. Know that all the experiences you have attracted into your life are purposeful and have the potential for positive meaning and growth.
Consider forgiveness
If there is anyone from your past that you are angry with, consider forgiveness. Anger drain's one's energy--it's a lower, heavier frequency. Forgiveness is for your own benefit. It does not mean you condone the negative acts of another--it simply frees you to get on with your life in a way that is loving and unemcumbered by past hurts.
Stay peaceful
Maintain serenity and a sense of balance in the face of the negative illusions within physical reality, including the presence of suffering. Realize that underlying all aspects of the physical world are the essence of love and the presence of peace. Even behind suffering is a Divine plan.
Let love lead you
Be willing to allow your heart intelligence to be your guide, and surrender the human mind to the heart-mind.
p3ac3

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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 15:34
Evil Started when man grabBED an object from the ground and said "it's mine"
nothing is ours guys
all of those things surrounding us don't belong to anyone
they belong to the future generations that will follow-if there are many because the writings have started to fullfill-but thats another topic.
My suggestion,as naive as it may be is-overcome your ego and beat your self offer help when u can and in the long run u will also get some help when needed
stop being fascists
stop me>you attitudes and
mine is better than yours
and DONT EXPECT FROM SOMEONE TO SHOW YOU THE WAY
BE THE CHANGE THAT YOU WANT IN THE WORLD

Love and Light

          Helicon Sounds Music
www.hssr.gr
Free Frequency
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Posted : Apr 16, 2008 15:51
[quote]
On 2008-04-15 13:09, pipe&slippers wrote:
Quote:

What we can do is be the best people we can be. We can start by simply being nice to each other, focus on the positive aspects of our own lives rather than the negative aspects of other people's lives.
Spend our time and energy on building the things we like, instead of destroying the things we don't like.
Its an illusion to think that this place is full of forward thinking positive people simply because its a trance forum.
Look at these pages, how many people are actively positive, "being the changes the wanna see in the world" and how many are simply badmouthing each other for their taste in music?
How many users are spending time making the music they like and how many are spending time putting other people down?
This "open minded community" is infested with bitterness and negativity, just as much as the society that creates these problems you speak of.

Peace out.





Hey my crazy Movek!!!Hope ur fine...and see u soon mate!!
Well for your topic I' m tottaly covered by Nectarios words....wonna add that the secret is to think and act in a positive way...We are what we think, so if our thoughts are positive then our actions will be the same!!!
Be well and always smile!!!
          Djane Zoi
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www.tesseractstudio.org
www.soundcloud.com/djane-zoi
movek
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 16, 2008 22:28
thank you people for your opinions ..


On 2008-04-15 13:09, pipe&slippers wrote:
Quote:

What we can do is be the best people we can be. We can start by simply being nice to each other, focus on the positive aspects of our own lives rather than the negative aspects of other people's lives.
Spend our time and energy on building the things we like, instead of destroying the things we don't like.




CRX(HSS Records) wrote
Quote:

My suggestion,as naive as it may be is-overcome your ego and beat your self offer help when u can and in the long run u will also get some help when needed



wicc@ wrote

Quote:

Commit to your evolution
Dedicate yourself to personal evolution, and cultivate a relationship with yourself that is loving, patient and without judgment. Acknowledge that you are powerful, and that your thoughts, coupled with the heart energy, can create any reality you dream of. Be aware that your energy extends well beyond your physical body, and that you have the ability to affect the world around you simply by your presence, so you make the choice to live consciously and responsibly.
Choose love




zoi wrote

Quote:

the secret is to think and act in a positive way...We are what we think, so if our thoughts are positive then our actions will be the same!!!





i ' m 200% with you guys
these are the golden values of man
if he choose to save his spirit
and if he want to achivie an enlightment evolution to his soul..

some words of great men

O Pythagoras sta xrusa tou eph

"Ka8e mera pou erxetai na frontizeis perissotero gia thn areth sou para gia thn trofh sou"

"Exe to nou sou agrupno giati to apokoimisma tou mualou moiazei me 8anato pragmatiko "

"Stous adunamous na deixneis kalosunh
mhn prosvaleis tous katapiesmenous
na kaneis aga8oergies,na prosfereis panta thn voh8eia sou..
Mh sukofanteis na milas gia oti xairei kalhs upolhpshs"


Tsouang Tsou establisher of taoism (4.000bc)

"To na agapas tous an8rwpous kai na upovoh8as pragmata einai kalosunh.

To na e3omaluneis tis diafores einai megaliwdes.

To na epikonwneis xwris filodo3ies ,shmainei na eisai genaiodwros.

To na eisai proskollhmenos stis dikes sou fusikes idiothtes einai h katu8unthria grammh.

To na teleiwpoieis autes tis idiothtes , einai h vash tou.

To na summorfonesai pros to Tao smainei na eisai plhrhs.

To na prostateueis thn 8elhsh sou apo ole8ries epirroes, apotelei oloklhrwsh"


------
Throught the years of humanity
thousands of enlighted people
believed in such values

But my question was
how can we do something all together
as a community for the good of all humanity and nature , not as individuals ..

Look at these pages, how many people are actively positive, "being the changes the wanna see in the world" and how many are simply badmouthing each other for their taste in music?
How many users are spending time making the music they like and how many are spending time putting other people down?
This "open minded community" is infested with bitterness and negativity, just as much as the society that creates these problems you speak of.


to tell you the sad truth my friend
these words discouraged me..

thank you all again for your participation


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other_reality
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 17, 2008 02:47
These all kind of reminded me that good old rave motto "Peace, Love and Unity"....

It is true that these times are a bit rough. Wars, pollution and hunger, are not exactly the best things a decent human wishes for.

Doing something about it is important, so that there is a change. I think that hard times can only be a some sort of "good lesson" for all of us, so we can see more clearly what is going on around us. Through this difficult test, we should gather the correct answers, solutions and possibilities, making ourselves better, achieve honest love towards life and creation, enjoy our existence and coexist with everything.

As for the "music war",which movek implied in his first post :
Quote:

On 2008-04-13 21:51:42, movek wrote:
.. i

every movement of music
had a different point of view throught the years
they smash it

can we let them do the same with trance?
can we do something for the situation
as a trance community ?
and what is that we can do?




Music is throughout space for everyone to find out and learn from. Nobody can "smash it", because it's invisible. What we can do, is investigate music and its possibilities, and evolve the thoughts, feelings and knowledge of it for the following generations..
As long as you really want something, and believe it, "they" cannot do anything, apart from trying to hide it.
          Bring yourselves into the light

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