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willsanquil
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 19:18
I want the video reaction of you handing your statements from this thread to an actual professor. Epicness would ensue I am sure.

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but it is obvisouly not about the way i speak and the arguments i might have. it is just the total inability to understand the rational thought behind it.



Pro tip: it is 100% about your arguments, and the total lack of rational thought.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Basilisk
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 19:19
Quote:

On 2011-02-14 11:24, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
i just wanna get out of this place. you know, you wont believe but i even had the impression that this was a constructive discussion. untill i read about the polluting from @mike a or another thing by basilisk, then i though wow, i definitely didnt understand that those people actually dont wanna hear what i say. they wann put me quite. i thought there was some meaning in discussions. no matter if it is an argumentative discussion or not ( i remember a discussion about 432 some days before my father died, i was ways more inpolite there). but it is obvisouly not about the way i speak and the arguments i might have. it is just the total inability to understand the rational thought behind it.



I think it has more to do with your total inability to articulate a rational argument. We welcome informed debate and dialectic... what you have been offering is anything but informed. I don't mean for this to be personal but there are obvious gaps in your understanding of the relevant subject matter (i.e. what an isotope is or how magnets work) so it is all but impossible to find insight in these discussions as long as there is a focus on the physical phenomena underlying whatever it is we are discussing.

Think of it this way. Imagine you are discussing history and politics with someone who mistakenly believes Napoleon was Chinese, or that the founding fathers got rid of slavery (Youtube "bachmann slavery" for more on that curious situation). The discussion won't be informative nor insightful as long as the focus is on straightening out the fundamentals. So it is with this discussion that has been running page after page without getting anywhere. It's like a dog chasing its own tail.

Incidentally, I am curious as to why you singled me out, Moki. Before this I wrote exactly one thing to you in this thread... probably because I know better that to get involved (most of the time at least)
rich
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 20:44
Brain scans of emotional response to music
http://www.fau.edu/communications/mediarelations/Releases1210/121015.php

@Beat Agency, I forwarded your post and the link to my sister who does work with ADHD and Autism kids. She's been using music in a lot of her programs with impressive results.

moki
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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 00:29
basilisk, if i ask you something very sincerely and heartfully and something very small and insignificant, would you bother to do this? can you please quote the sentence or more than one sentence or whatsoever it was, that proves that i dont know what is an isotope and what is a magnet? please? double please?
moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 00:37
but no, leave it.
i know you won't. and even if you do, it will not bring us further in any way.
why am i on an exam of what is an isotope in this thread, is totally unclear to me.

here is another one who is not informed about the constants in nature. http://www.sheldrake.org/experiments/constants/

just in case you wanna know. but i am sure you dont want. because gravity is a constant, same with 27 isotope combinations of water. this is irony, in case you dont get it.

lets just leave it. i singled you out, because i want.
do i need i scientific debate about why i want to do so?


dont worry, i leave you welcome the rest of the very informed debates in isratrance.
willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 00:47
I was just going back through the thread in an attempt to quote your posts that prove you have no idea about what you're talking about, but I ended up quoting basically every post of yours where you talk about isotopes....this thread has enough super long posts without me blowing it up with the same information again.

It seems a little redundant to post it, as mike has already done a great job of explaining why you're wrong. It doesn't seem like anyone posting anything (no matter how true, or logical) will have any effect on you at all. The dissonance between you claiming to be versed in statistics and mathematics and logic and your complete inability to see how atrocious your arguments and reasoning are is staggering.

There is a running theme in a lot of your posts on isra where you will spout a bunch of nonsense phrased in a very uninformed way and then when someone attempts to correct you (even in a non-asshole way) you refuse to admit that you are wrong and then threaten to leave isra forever.

I wish you would do one of those things. There is nothing wrong with drawing inspiration from the world around us, there is so much that is unexplainable and mystic - however you are doing yourself and the people you converse with a disservice by mixing your mysticism and science together...at least in the way you have presented it. My 2 cents.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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moki
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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 01:24
what do you wish i would do?
i admit i was wrong. god i am so fucking wrong on this planet, even in hell they'D tell me i need a further degree to be accepted.
but no , seriously, i admit i dont know anything. i was wrong to try to speak.
would you now do something for me in turn please? stop repearting that i am converting someone. i am just looking for some answers for myself. this is very important to me and if you are grasp it , it would bravely make a woman very happy and smiling. not that you have it. but gentlemen do.

how can i admit i am wrong about isotopes if i havents even made a statement about isotopes. i told you what i read in a book. i told you that there may be more than 27 combinations because mike explained to me to count :

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The three isotopes of hydrogen are H D and T. The three of oxygen (16,17,18) will be called X Y Z for our discussion.
So: HXH HYH HZH DXH DYH DYZ and so on... If you do this correctly, you will get 27 of them.



i counted, and i did not get 27. or is TXH something different from HXT? and i got more, because i see more than three isotopes in wikipedia anyway.
but i dont have a problem to say i dont know this. i have much more questions than answers.


i wish that i inform myself better about isotopes? you wish i stop talking at all?
actually you wish i stop thinking.


moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 02:13
Quote:
The three isotopes of hydrogen are H D and T. The three of oxygen (16,17,18) will be called X Y Z for our discussion.
So: HXH HYH HZH DXH DYH DYZ and so on... If you do this correctly, you will get 27 of them.



come on mike, show me how to do this correctly. i am so willing to disgrace myself less the next time a nice guy asks me about isotopes. in best case you will only need to click 81 keys on your precious keyboard. it is not so much. please.
Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod

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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 02:14
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On 2011-02-15 01:24, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
i see more than three isotopes in wikipedia


Link please? Showing description of more than 3 stable isotopes of hydrogen.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 02:23
I did not say convert, I said converse - as in to speak with someone.

I applaud your search for answers in unusual places, though I do not share some of your convictions.

Yes, you have quoted from books about isotopes. Just because it is in a book does not mean it is true; perhaps you misinterepted the book (a fairly common problem when reading about and trying to understand complex topics) or the book is just plain wrong. I am no expert on these matters but from a debate standpoint I am much more convinced by Mike's points and statements about isotopes than yours.

I wish anyone would stop talking about things that they do not know much about *in a way that makes them seem like they do*

I don't wish that you would stop thinking...quite the opposite actually. I do think it would be good for you to not be so incredibly defensive when people question your views however - it does your words a disservice.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 02:27
Colin , what about this link first?
http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/o2/O2_1_Isotopes.htm

obviously not 27. from the equation above. why dont the profis correct me if i am wrong.


moki
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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 02:35
and basilisk,

if you bothered to read the three posts above, you will now know that the feeling is exactly the same on my side too. i cant base a debate on a statement that napoleon is chinese. if you knew so much, or any of you, you would see that there are no 27 combinations as mike stated. you would just know it, even without chemistry students and even without chemistry. i kept the posts short only for you, because you are special.
Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod

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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 03:02
Quote:

On 2011-02-15 02:27, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
Colin , what about this link first?
http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/o2/O2_1_Isotopes.htm

obviously not 27. from the equation above. why dont the profis correct me if i am wrong.


That's not what I asked. You're trying to change the subject.
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On 2011-02-15 01:24, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
i see more than three isotopes in wikipedia


Link please? Showing description of more than 3 stable isotopes of hydrogen [edit] or oxygen, if that's what you meant.
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moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 03:07
i am not changing the subject.
this where we started.
the possible combinations are
HXH
HYH
HZH
DXH
DYH
DZH
TXH
TYH
TZH
DXT
DYT
DZT
TXT
DXD
TYT
TZT
DYD
DZD

18 and not 27 isotope combinations.

and if i have to do with a debate where everybody seems to agree with a basic mistake of the chemistry student in our thread, telling me 100 times that i dont know the basic things and am not informed to even be able to debate, then i stop on that point and dont see why i should go on with the rest.
moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 15, 2011 03:09
and if i hear at least one time, lol sorry, i was wrong, i might continue with stable and unstable isotopes.
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