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Posted : Feb 13, 2011 17:29
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but it is definitely more suitable to people who are strong with placebo and self autosuggestion. i am not, and i need to understand it.
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Posted : Feb 13, 2011 19:01
Moki if you need to understand i suggest you start studying these things real hard on university level instead of taking your scientist friends words for anything. And even so dont think you will be able to understand
Scientists speaks best with scientists who understand the terminology and has the basic education. that is the truth, ask me, when i started out with music over 10 years ago i had no clue about the terminology and i had to study it to be able to keep up in discussion, and its a constant learning process, one forget things and new things emerge....
Take this example with your discussion with Mike A, he has studied geology with chemistry and mathematics, there really is no argue that he knows the terminology pretty well. Do you? i for sure dont. all these things tells me very little.
So if you want to get involved in these things, and you claim that you need to understand, especially things that are not scientifically proven. It really dont go hand in hand, its out of logic. Well not really, the only logic would be to pursue this with suitable experiments.
And what is the difference between Ancient Solfeggio frequencies and the "Cosmic frequency" of 432hz? i would call them both new age and not scientifically proven. Non the less interesting and fascinating.... but i can be totally wrong
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Posted : Feb 13, 2011 19:59
...so tired of this thread. thanks for advice though. but i am not gonna spend another five years in the university. i have studied enough mathematics in my university to understand what i am talking about. and to understand that i know more about it than many do. and actually you dont even need mathematics of university level to understand a simple thing of an octave.
and for the 432 hz i dont need chemistry anyway. physics may be.
gush, who the hell made me start with this at all. a thread in the production forum. a plan about an event and a psychedelic museum this summer. i promise to not even post it on not a single trance website. stay with your terribly old thing and your great heros of knowledge.
so tired of this discrimination always. to understand i dont need another university. but to be heard i need a professor title. why not, there are at least 30 years more to do this.
probably it would be a great thing to do to have less time for forums. i started to waste time in forum after i left the university. you dont understand what i am talking about. any single word. impossible discussion. tiring.
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Posted : Feb 13, 2011 20:05
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Posted : Feb 13, 2011 20:23
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...so tired of this thread. thanks for advice though. but i am not gonna spend another five years in the university. i have studied enough mathematics in my university to understand what i am talking about. and to understand that i know more about it than many do. and actually you dont even need mathematics of university level to understand a simple thing of an octave.
and for the 432 hz i dont need chemistry anyway. physics may be.
gush, who the hell made me start with this at all. a thread in the production forum. a plan about an event and a psychedelic museum this summer. i promise to not even post it on not a single trance website. stay with your terribly old thing and your great heros of knowledge.
so tired of this discrimination always. to understand i dont need another university. but to be heard i need a professor title. why not, there are at least 30 years more to do this.
probably it would be a great thing to do to have less time for forums. i started to waste time in forum after i left the university. you dont understand what i am talking about. any single word. impossible discussion. tiring.
No i probably dont understand its kind of hard as i have almost no insight in this matter at all, i should probably not even be here And
yes it has become an impossible discussion, But you know, its because the bar was set high, and that everyone needs scientific facts and experiments to back up all their views and comments with, so it becomes impossible, also it has become a mix of whatnot and so many question cant be answered.
Moki i like when you write and share your views and opinions, though sometimes there are so many questions in your posts and thinking-capsules that i get very lost, and also i thought it was contradicting
with your statement about "cosmic octave" and Solfeggio frequencies, as you know math i think it would be possible to count the octave from anywhere you start, be it 266hz as tonic or 528hz, its just multiplications?
what makes 423hz so specific and what is it that it correspond to in nature?
Btw i think as you are the most active girl in here you should expect some attention from the boys haha just kidding im so sexistic.
Moki lets make out instead
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Posted : Feb 13, 2011 21:10
freeflow, i actually like you very much and i am sure you are a great pure soul because i dont need to think long to find it out, it happens by intuition. sorry for writing the last post under yours.
the difference between the theories about 432 hz and 528 hz is that they are based on totally different models of resonance. the first one is algebra, it is an arithmetic model and derives resonance from other numbers. it does it very very precise because numbers are very exact. the second one is geometry, either sacred or not, it is a resonance of geometry. the geometric form is supposed to resonate. who knows, may be it does, but i prefer the first model. there nobody tells me that i have to take a sacred sequence of numbers or whatsoever and use to because the saints did so.
it is much more unprecise also.
sorry once more that i wrote it under your post. my life , especially since i started my firm and nobody is responsible for me and takes me into protection, is just a continuous battle to prove that i may be know exactly as much as other male professionals with the same degree. it is based very deeply in society that this cannot be true. it is pissing off sometimes. i am sorry. i will try to give a break for a week or two now.
hugs and smiles to you.
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Posted : Feb 13, 2011 21:45
Its all okey Moki, Now you made me smile. Also i should not had interfered with what knowledge anyone holds in here. As i know very little my self
But all these mysteries tickles my brain and i very much like the idea of healing frequencies, But i think its more about the beauty of the music and the long phrases and cadences, long delays that makes you hold your breath for a while..
I think for healing just making music that makes you breath deep and relax is enough.
But if you can get into mixing it up with these interesting frequencies its much more fun probably, and who knows maybe it has some secrete powers Btw i also need a break, to work with music, i have some catching up to do....
It is understandable you get pissed off with men sometimes, i get pissed off with women sometimes You remember we talked about Female Power and Male Dominance, hehe
Hugs and smiles to you to
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Posted : Feb 13, 2011 23:33
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Hugs and smiles to you to
Thank you baba! PLUR i send to you and your family! THNX!
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 08:21
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On 2011-02-13 21:10, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
the difference between the theories about 432 hz and 528 hz is that they are based on totally different models of resonance. the first one is algebra, it is an arithmetic model and derives resonance from other numbers. it does it very very precise because numbers are very exact. the second one is geometry, either sacred or not, it is a resonance of geometry. the geometric form is supposed to resonate. who knows, may be it does, but i prefer the first model. there nobody tells me that i have to take a sacred sequence of numbers or whatsoever and use to because the saints did so.
it is much more unprecise also.
Do you ever read what you just have posted?
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 10:01
my answer : LOL
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 11:24
i not only read them, i even copy them and print them and give them to some real scientists , which means not only the title of a professor but an existing experimental laboratory and publications. in all cases, they just tell me to forget those people and finish my theory. a rational thought can anyway only be understood by a rational mind.
i just wanna get out of this place. you know, you wont believe but i even had the impression that this was a constructive discussion. untill i read about the polluting from @mike a or another thing by basilisk, then i though wow, i definitely didnt understand that those people actually dont wanna hear what i say. they wann put me quite. i thought there was some meaning in discussions.
no matter if it is an argumentative discussion or not ( i remember a discussion about 432 some days before my father died, i was ways more inpolite there). but it is obvisouly not about the way i speak and the arguments i might have. it is just the total inability to understand the rational thought behind it.
these discussions are lost from the beginning.
and before some of you go to ask shahar to stop such bullock non rational thoughts polluting isratrance, i wanna go myself. i asked something in the isratrance com section. it is now enough for me. i dont wanna be found in google in this forum because i have more important things to say than what happens here. everyone who is in the creative undustry in one way or another should be careful what google knows. btw i am more than lucky that , because what you would find, would be publications of scientists about my work and it is what is important. WHO says what about you. i am done with the forums. this one was the last one anyway.
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 11:38
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i am done with the forums. this one was the last one anyway.
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Moki the only place where we will see your or your friends' publications is The Onion.
See ya later.
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 12:08
This one time I was going to a nature party with Pavel in the Yaris with Moti and the dog and then he played this track 666hz and the dog started talking and then proceded to shit all over the place inside the car. The AC was on because it's mad hot in israel so you imagine the mess. He apologized and we had a good timez.
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 12:11
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and before some of you go to ask shahar to stop such bullock non rational thoughts polluting isratrance, i wanna go myself. i asked something in the isratrance com section. it is now enough for me. i dont wanna be found in google in this forum because i have more important things to say than what happens here. everyone who is in the creative undustry in one way or another should be careful what google knows. btw i am more than lucky that , because what you would find, would be publications of scientists about my work and it is what is important. WHO says what about you. i am done with the forums. this one was the last one anyway.
Everyone in the world is doing something without me
