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432 Hz tuning: The Music of SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Dec 13, 2008 17:08
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This is true. But for a start, that's not what Moki said, which was the point I was arguing. She was talking about the period of Earth's rotation, of which there are more than one ("there's no ONE such thing"), and which is NOT a resonant frequency. Secondly, if we're talking about the resonant frequency of the earth, this is not well defined as the earth is not a perfect sphere made out of a single material with constant density throughout its structure. The earth resonates at many frequencies.
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Posted : Dec 13, 2008 17:43
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On 2008-12-13 14:32, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
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On 2008-12-12 20:43, pipe&slippers wrote:
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On 2008-12-08 23:41, illusions wrote:
All those that tried it on this thread ended up vibrating themselves into outer space. It was intense. Can't really describe it - you would have had to be there to see it. I was stoned and tuned to 420 instead, just sounded wrong not much else happened.
Sorry I can't tell you more. But this 432hz stuff - man, its scary. Be careful.
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Anyhow, this whole thing is interesting, I am not convinced with these preposterous theories of cosmic resonace or whatever, but I am gonna give it a try on me next tune and see if I suddenly find my self doing the slippery slide on the outer rings of saturn.
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but why actually? why are you not convinced? i mean seriously, this is such an obvious thing...
what are the contra arguments here actually?
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The fact that I tried it out and nothing happened. You are so caught up in the theory and its "spiritual/cosmic attributes" and you insist that you really know it does make a difference, whereas its not any different than using the standard tuning.
You can keep supporting this exotic theory, it won't change the fact that the real practise is not any different.
Peace out.
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Vermeee
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Posted : Dec 13, 2008 22:16
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the fact that u havent any spiritual/cosmo experience beside ur tattos and muscles doesnt mean that the thing doesnt exist.
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 02:11
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 08:35
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moki
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 15:33
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colin are you always so rude actually, in every topic? are you one of those type of users who always sit in front of their fucking computer and have their small litlle orgasm while showing the others how wrong their ideas are.
you have 60 sek X 60 minutes X 12 hours. this is exactly 43200 seconds. the first reason why 432 is an important figure. you find it everywhere in the ancient cultures too.
the earth year is 136,10hz according to the theory with the transposing. this is btw the sadja, it is the frequence to which some hindu instruments are tuned and is considered by pioneer hans cousto to be the frequence of om. this is the chromatone a1 432.1hz. now i am not used to talk about music theory in english (i have to read a few books in this language to be more presice but i hope you get it).
i was explaining the basics of the cosmic octave. of course there are different frequences for the earth. first you have the earth day and then the earth year. then there is a difference from which point you observe the sky- from earth or not. exactly like in astrology you have different positions of view at the sky. this whole thing is very connected to astrology, especially the horoscopic music. then you take the star constellations in a very particular moment of birth and you have your terzas and septimes and whatever as frequences - frequences that come from the stars of birth constellations. and you have your music according to your horoscope. it is really really genius thing. cause you are tuned to yourself then.
you will not hear what i say until you hear my music? well my music is there. come and hear. what can i do that you havent heard
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 16:33
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martyn
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 19:09
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Once I listened to a sound installation of an american artist. He composed music in natural tuning for a specially tuned grand piano. It was a great inner experience and I would like to experiment with that, too.
I know that some vst offer the possibility for microtuning. Are there any presets for the natural / just scale or an EASY way of tuning it DIY?
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 21:38
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On 2008-12-14 15:33, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
colin are you always so rude actually, in every topic? are you one of those type of users who always sit in front of their fucking computer and have their small litlle orgasm while showing the others how wrong their ideas are.
you have 60 sek X 60 minutes X 12 hours. this is exactly 43200 seconds. the first reason why 432 is an important figure. you find it everywhere in the ancient cultures too.
the earth year is 136,10hz according to the theory with the transposing. this is btw the sadja, it is the frequence to which some hindu instruments are tuned and is considered by pioneer hans cousto to be the frequence of om. this is the chromatone a1 432.1hz. now i am not used to talk about music theory in english (i have to read a few books in this language to be more presice but i hope you get it).
i was explaining the basics of the cosmic octave. of course there are different frequences for the earth. first you have the earth day and then the earth year. then there is a difference from which point you observe the sky- from earth or not. exactly like in astrology you have different positions of view at the sky. this whole thing is very connected to astrology, especially the horoscopic music. then you take the star constellations in a very particular moment of birth and you have your terzas and septimes and whatever as frequences - frequences that come from the stars of birth constellations. and you have your music according to your horoscope. it is really really genius thing. cause you are tuned to yourself then.
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It seems to me that you are just trading one religion for another...
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 21:50
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colin are you always so rude actually, in every topic? |
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Why don't you do a search for my posts and find out for yourself?  You'll find it takes a certain kind of arrogant bullshit to bring out the rudeness in me, and I'm sorry to say that your posts push all the wrong buttons for me.
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Strange, I always thought our days were 24 hours long (oh, minus just a little bit, which is why we have to add a leap-day every 4 years)... fact is, for all that the 'standard day' of 86400 seconds is used in astronomy, it's purely a matter of standards and convenience and isn't meant to be accurate when talking about the actual rotational period of the planet Earth. If the ancients were actually tuning themselves to a multiple of the length of a day, would they have used the ACTUAL, doesn't-fit-into-a-nice-round-number-of-seconds length of the day, or would they have used an arbitrary length of time based on the frequency of radiation emitted by the Caesium 133 atom, and which came into existance thousands of years after their culture passed away?
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Elad
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 22:02
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how much semi tones should i reduce to get from A = 440hz to A=432 ?
whats the suposly ultimate vibrating with fairies bpm ?
its very simple process technichly to work on specific bpm and tune digital instruments is fairly easy... and i ca feel if its diffrent. i wish thats the secret and that its that easy to upgrade my music to be better.
i will do and listen and try to see if there is any diffrence. i dont mind to try it and see for myself but my math sux
the only little thing bother me from before start my cosmic track is that i heard so much cosmic music that is tuned on normal scales and pitches.. therefor im suspicious but why not try www.sattelbattle.com
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soulfood
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 22:15
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Hmm... this 432 stuff is wearing thin. I always figured that in just intonation specific frequencies are not relevant hence in classical hindustani for example they never had a set tone, they just tuned to what is comfortable for singers or other instruments in question and called their tonic "Sa". It never mattered what Sa was really but what characterized the melodies was the use of a true spiral of 5ths rather than a circle a la western classical. Some like the sound of one, others vica versa.
I certainly can't hear/see or feel any magic involved. Maybe I'm cursed and cannot access the cosmic powers of your magical 432.
But I have ten fingers, ten toes... I sometimes go to bed at ten. The modern world uses a metric system based on tens. It's just too coincimental! I'm going to start tuning to A = 10!
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Vermeee
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Posted : Dec 15, 2008 00:08
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u have 10 finger in the hands and 10 fingers in the feet whhich s equal 20 .... modern culture has stole 10 fingers from us.
u could use match based on "dezenas" of 20 if u want, as many ancient cultures have done.. the most easy example are the ancients from AMERICA : Mayas , Aztecas, Incas.
which nowadays many people usin dreamspell or the native calendar are tuned on the 13:20 okay it has nothing to do with the topic but just completin the topic above.
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moki
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Posted : Dec 15, 2008 11:54
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colin,
i was not arrogant here. i am just explaining politely and friendly and just trying to find some freaks with whom t experiement on that cause i dont think that doing it alone is the ultimate goal of the universe.
unfortunately you seem to have a problem with women telling you something that you dont know, or at least this is how it looks. i was talking briefly about how you transpose the octave into our spectre. no arrogance in this one. yes you have differencies with the so called synodic and siderial tones, there is not only one tune for a planet. but as a matter of fact if you know a little bit about astrology and astronomy you will see that you have these differencies there too and the only thing you have to do, is to put the different numbers of days into the formula. the earh doesnt resonate in so many frequencies as you think. you have similar cycle every year and every 4 years....
the ancient worked with days of 12 hours. for instance in egypt they had days of 12 hours. even on the standard classical watches you can see this. 12 hours was more important to them than 24. and this is the mystical part of all - the ancients knew incredibly a lot about astronomy and built their sacred buildings according to that. now we finally arrived with science where they were and this is actually completely astonishing. to unite our and their knowledge. you know, "mathematics is the language of nature and everything can be understood and represented in numbers". some numbers are especially sacral and were used a lot in the ancient times and in sacred codes. and anyway even if you dont believe in mysteries, and are a straight logical man, you can still try to think about the immense possibilities we have, if we tune into the cosmic frequences. and not only in music but in colours because if you continue to octavate, to transpose, you come to the field of colours too so every tune has a colour, and this is not any lsd-induced bullshit but it is mathematics and logics.
also, this whole field is far unexploited till now. believe me, very few ppl do it, cause it takes als a lot of background knowleadge about the stars and astrology and knowledge abut mathematics, and not everyone has this in his head....but it has a lot of possibilities for the mankind.
also my dream is to tune into the maya calender which is sth that noone has done with this theory so far.....but it will be great to do it, cause the mayas had a better understanding of time, they had 13 moons, and they did not have our inproficiencies in the calender of 12 months.
and i dont need to search, i read what you say in this topic at the beginning. you dont start by 0 hz man. you start by 0,00000000000xyz . which is something else.
peace out, and if someone reads and is interested to discuss it with me in person, please feel very welcome. i have enough of this loneliness now. i have to interact. and btw even if i knw a bit or two about astrology and ancient cultures and a bit more about mathematics, i still have not much knowledge about the technics of sound production so we could learn from each other....
or we just continue the old ways. and if you wanna be further rude, then just be it. dont give a x. i have not just posted a link on myspace my friend. i have done a bit more than that on http://www.timewavezero-productions.com
anyway in the formula you have to take 24.
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Posted : Dec 15, 2008 13:46
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come on , so many arguments for 8Hz??
lets say that 432Hz is indeed an important number/frequency of any kind from ancient astronomy/mathematics/rituals to now
i personally have no time to dig so much into hidden theories thats parallel to music and sound and the hole universe..
moreover you would be totally detuned playing at those freq. 
440 stay in tune, love it
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