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2 melodies playing att the same time sounds messy

Xsze


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Posted : May 11, 2014 22:46
The only problem with counterpoint is using it in conjunction with your own music, so trying to bend many rules and incorporating as many species you can, if you go first species all along, it will sound dull, little syncopation, different motions, some pauses and actual real world producing situations, I mean it’s not set in stone one artist should use counterpoint by book, bend it until it sounds interesting, it’s better than going full on unison or hoping for some happy accident.

bukboy
Hyperboreans

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Posted : May 12, 2014 17:34
Just use the basics of counterpoint... i.e. make sure that the intervals are complementary where they are supposed to be. Then change as required.
Upavas
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Posted : May 12, 2014 21:25
Before you guys suggest counterpoint I would recommend the basics of music theory...           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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Ancient Alien
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Posted : May 14, 2014 17:23
at the end i use my ears, after some hardwork it always work           https://soundcloud.com/ancientaliengoa

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Xsze


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Posted : May 14, 2014 18:37
You can get same result in 5 minutes or 1 hour, depends do you know what are you are doing actually, it’s time saver and opens up wider range of possibilities, than relying on happy accidents which is like wearing t shirt every day praying that rain don’t fall that day and than winter comes and you are screwed, in other words, you start getting writer blocks and opening threads about arrangements, structures and storytelling, it’s all connected and we all use it, attentional or accidentally, difference is actual labor and knowledge behind it.
ansolas
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Posted : May 15, 2014 18:53
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On 2014-05-12 21:25, Upavas wrote:
Before you guys suggest counterpoint I would recommend the basics of music theory...




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Soundmagus
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Posted : May 19, 2014 14:55
Counterpoint doesnt have to be classical, check out the little video i created about the basics.

http://youtu.be/tnAxoIdIS0o           Check out my site for Video tutorials and other tips & Tricks

http://www.music-production-videos.com
frisbeehead
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Posted : May 19, 2014 15:31
just saw this on attack magazine's website:

http://www.attackmagazine.com/technique/passing-notes/counterpoint/

thought it might be useful, no?

there's a whole lot more in there, worth checking out!
ansolas
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Posted : May 22, 2014 20:01
http://teoria.com/tutorials/hf/index.php           http://facebook.com/ansolas
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http://soundcloud.com/ansolas
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Melange5738
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Posted : May 28, 2014 15:49
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On 2014-05-19 14:55, Soundmagus wrote:
Counterpoint doesnt have to be classical, check out the little video i created about the basics.

http://youtu.be/tnAxoIdIS0o




It does not have to be classical, but it often becomes classical when you add irregular intervals on tones. It is like the good ol' "eastern vs western music doctrine". Western musicians often think quarter tones sound "false", and eastern musicians often think the same of semi tones (and well tempered ones in particular) of the same reasons.

One of the main purposes with trance (as opposed to house music in general) is the purpose of producing trance-like states in conciousness. In my opinion, counterpoints effectively reduces this effect by enforcing alpha states and rapid analytical abilities.
Soundmagus
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Posted : May 28, 2014 16:18
loool it is what you make it           Check out my site for Video tutorials and other tips & Tricks

http://www.music-production-videos.com
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