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Your favourite way to introduce a new sound
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loki
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 05:50:51
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Share your favourite ways to introduce a new sound - and please, share why you use it or what's special about it. I'll start by giving mine as examples so y'all know what I mean:
- Slowly lowering a hipass filter while slowly lowering the reverb send (over the course of, say, 8 bars). This makes the sound sound like it's coming from far, far away.
- Slowly raising a lowpass filter while slowly automating a flanger: raising the intensity, resonance, and speed all slowly to maximum, eventually soloing this channel for the last couple of beats, then bypassing the flanger and the filter as the buildup ends, letting the sound sort of explode full-force out of it's warped, spinning beginnings. This makes the sound slowly warp around and around faster and faster, and then come in again without flanging and front and centre in the mix.
- solo the channel right as a phrase is ending and timestretch the heck out of the sound while nothing else is playing, then as the new phrase starts let everything come back in without timestretched. This is a lot like the traditional, overused buffer override trick of glitching a sound out at the end of a phrase and/or right before the sound is introduced... except trippy and less overused.
Let's hear 'em! Introducing sounds in new and creative ways is something we all have to do, all the time, so let's get to it!
  Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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Kryten
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 06:45
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I had some experiments with grain delay(Abletons built in one) lately and found out that it can be used to introduce a sound or for the opposite.
Automating Spray, frequency and maybe the pitch.
Sounds like a dissolved/vaporized sound gets together again.
My first track:
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makus
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 08:10
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makus
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 08:13
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On a serious note, my fav method at the time is to cut the lead and start introducing it with its different parts, probably with different fx, untill it will form the original form.
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mudpeople
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 09:21
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I dont knwo if i have a favorite, or typical way...
I try to do what feels right, sounds coherent from an overall perspective, and above all, i try to do what sounds good, to me, and entertains me, and is something that i would like to play in a dj set. Im pretty careful what i play in sets, i dont like to play filler or headbangers-for-headbangers-sake, or smash-face banger hit tracks one afte ranother, but what I think represents good music in my ears. I guess i hope to show those who say there isnt anything new, or psy is throwaway, or other complaints, that there is in fact still some damn cool stuff out there. In my ears.
THat said...
I like how it sounded when i isolated the freq ranges of a synth that has elements across the low-mid to mid-his with band pass filters, in their own channels. I first built around the one, then the next, with the third adding accents here and there, before finally bringing them all toghether in teh end and kinda, idk, uncovering the overall musicality.
Ive been messing today actually in a new one with a 2nd kick/bass set, with a more grungy kick and tons of fx on the bass, and sorta blending it over the main bass ideally sounding like its 2 diff basslines of 2 tracks being mixed. So far sounds cool.
dblue Glitch cna be really cool sounding on individual channels, particularly percussion. Usually i dont like to get too insane with the thing, and keep it randomish enough that it doesnt sound like the same pattern over and over, so i usually just use one or 2 fx. Play around.
I send my kick and bass and put the Renoise native filter, low pass, with the Butterworth 8n option which has no resonance and acts as a brick wall cutoff, handy as HELL for kick/bass filter sweeping, as it doesnt color the sound at all like the Moog or quad settings do. On a band pass or band reject filter its like a scalpel. I love it.
Ive been liking how it sounds when i bounce a synth to a mono file and give it 2 channels, one for each side of the stereo, that lets me have fine control over exactly how each side sounds, and when i add some fx to one side only it makes these neat transient goodies that float out of the main bulk of the sound. Sometimes i multisample the hell out of it wiht like 10 channels all panned and levels tweaked differently. MDA RoundPan on a few is neat too. The arcdev skutterbug effect adds some glitchy almost digital-noise-like sound when put on just a few of the channels. Bouncing a vst to mono sample frees a ton of cpu.
Whihc reminds me, if youre maxing cpu often try bouncing to samples, instead of running a whole synth and playing it as your sequencing tells it to, your cpu is then free to dedicate to more vsts or something. It helps me immensely to write quicker and cleaner if i dont have to mute anything. And rendering to mono allows freedom to play around as i just mentioned above.
idk i play around too much and get in moods, so my tracks usually dont have anything common uniting them, tricks wise. THey all tend to sound like Mudpeople tracks tho 
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loki
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 18:03
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On 2011-03-25 08:13, makus wrote:
On a serious note, my fav method at the time is to cut the lead and start introducing it with its different parts, probably with different fx, untill it will form the original form.
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that sounds kind of cool. there's a lot that can be done with that - i'm trying it in the next tune.
Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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aciduss
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 18:31
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[/quote]- solo the channel right as a phrase is ending and timestretch the heck out of the sound while nothing else is playing, then as the new phrase starts let everything come back in without timestretched. This is a lot like the traditional, overused buffer override trick of glitching a sound out at the end of a phrase and/or right before the sound is introduced... except trippy and less overused. [quote]
This sounds interesting, can we get an example please?  |
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psyraal
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 18:49
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On 2011-03-25 18:03, loki wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 08:13, makus wrote:
On a serious note, my fav method at the time is to cut the lead and start introducing it with its different parts, probably with different fx, untill it will form the original form.
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that sounds kind of cool. there's a lot that can be done with that - i'm trying it in the next tune.
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Same here, i'm gonna try it out
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woodster77
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 19:56
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drop everything but the bass and hats and use the last bar of the riff loop to fill
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 22:31
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when it work ,just right in your face with no usless tricks can be effective. straight to the point !
it can take everyone by surprise and make a good reaction on the floor. |
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maartenvandijk303
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 22:39
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hidding the sounds under the filters and when needed pulling the filters down or changing from a bandpass into a highpass filter
works nice with leads that have some noise elements
first its like a hihat and when pulled down it turns into a lead |
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Ascension
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Posted : Mar 27, 2011 00:10
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On 2011-03-25 18:49, NychroLogic wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 18:03, loki wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 08:13, makus wrote:
On a serious note, my fav method at the time is to cut the lead and start introducing it with its different parts, probably with different fx, untill it will form the original form.
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that sounds kind of cool. there's a lot that can be done with that - i'm trying it in the next tune.
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Same here, i'm gonna try it out
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I like to cut out small parts of a lead and do some combination of delay, stretch, reverse, pitch bend, or some other fx to the parts before the main section.
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Medea
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Posted : Mar 27, 2011 03:42
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fade-in
also, i like very much to automate stereo-wideness. Before the sound starts to play normally, it can play a couple of bars with the stereoimage automated from mono to wide stereo, then drop to normal http://soundcloud.com/aedem |
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makus
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Posted : Mar 27, 2011 19:02
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On 2011-03-27 00:10, Ascension wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 18:49, NychroLogic wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 18:03, loki wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 08:13, makus wrote:
On a serious note, my fav method at the time is to cut the lead and start introducing it with its different parts, probably with different fx, untill it will form the original form.
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that sounds kind of cool. there's a lot that can be done with that - i'm trying it in the next tune.
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Same here, i'm gonna try it out
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I like to cut out small parts of a lead and do some combination of delay, stretch, reverse, pitch bend, or some other fx to the parts before the main section.
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yes, and the real coolness starts when this introduction becomes the new theme. because of such metamorphosis i love psy so much.
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psyraal
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Posted : Mar 27, 2011 19:23
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On 2011-03-25 18:03, loki wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 08:13, makus wrote:
On a serious note, my fav method at the time is to cut the lead and start introducing it with its different parts, probably with different fx, untill it will form the original form.
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that sounds kind of cool. there's a lot that can be done with that - i'm trying it in the next tune.
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Same here, i'm gonna try it out
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I like to cut out small parts of a lead and do some combination of delay, stretch, reverse, pitch bend, or some other fx to the parts before the main section.
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yes, and the real coolness starts when this introduction becomes the new theme. because of such metamorphosis i love psy so much.
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well said
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