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Younger Brother album to be released.
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Ott^
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 20:58
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On 2011-04-09 16:30, Beat Agency wrote:
I know Ott for years and been working with him years ago. He can take my sarcasm 
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We met twice, maybe three times, 15 years ago. You don't know me and I don't read your 'sarcasm'.
You are publicly insulting friends of mine and I feel compelled to defend them as they aren't here to defend themselves. Fair enough if you don't like their music but I think it's pretty low to be calling them ugly, especially as you're no George Clooney yourself.
I can't help but notice that almost everything you say is in some way doing somebody down and I think you need to get help with it. |
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 21:12
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On 2011-04-09 20:58, Ott^ wrote:
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On 2011-04-09 16:30, Beat Agency wrote:
I know Ott for years and been working with him years ago. He can take my sarcasm
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We met twice, maybe three times, 15 years ago. You don't know me and I don't read your 'sarcasm'.
You are publicly insulting friends of mine and I feel compelled to defend them as they aren't here to defend themselves. Fair enough if you don't like their music but I think it's pretty low to be calling them ugly, especially as you're no George Clooney yourself.
I can't help but notice that almost everything you say is in some way doing somebody down and I think you need to get help with it.
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Please read your mail.. I was never out to insult your friends. It started as a joke. And yes a bad one seen in the light that you feel offended. I apologize for that.
I know you from the forum for years and that you yourself use a lot of sarcasm. We worked together years back as I wrote and I felt we went along just fine there sharing the same humor. That was what I meant.
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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 23:31
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On 2011-04-09 20:58, Ott^ wrote:
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On 2011-04-09 16:30, Beat Agency wrote:
I know Ott for years and been working with him years ago. He can take my sarcasm
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We met twice, maybe three times, 15 years ago. You don't know me and I don't read your 'sarcasm'.
You are publicly insulting friends of mine and I feel compelled to defend them as they aren't here to defend themselves. Fair enough if you don't like their music but I think it's pretty low to be calling them ugly, especially as you're no George Clooney yourself.
I can't help but notice that almost everything you say is in some way doing somebody down and I think you need to get help with it.
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I can't help but notice it too and surely more people noticed it.
And I agree, he needs to get help with this issue.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 00:29
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On 2011-04-09 16:30, Beat Agency wrote:
I know Ott for years and been working with him years ago. He can take my sarcasm
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We met twice, maybe three times, 15 years ago. You don't know me and I don't read your 'sarcasm'.
You are publicly insulting friends of mine and I feel compelled to defend them as they aren't here to defend themselves. Fair enough if you don't like their music but I think it's pretty low to be calling them ugly, especially as you're no George Clooney yourself.
I can't help but notice that almost everything you say is in some way doing somebody down and I think you need to get help with it.
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I can't help but notice it too and surely more people noticed it.
And I agree, he needs to get help with this issue.
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Sure I need help. I need help to stop you from having an opinion about me 24/7. I am sure we all by now know your opinion about me. Is there ever going to be a pause in your rants about me?
I now know how it feel to be stalked
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MARGHERITA
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 01:14
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Ott^
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 04:34
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On 2011-04-09 21:12, Beat Agency wrote:
Please read your mail.. I was never out to insult your friends. It started as a joke. And yes a bad one seen in the light that you feel offended. I apologize for that.
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I can't help defending my friends and I would hope that you would do the same in similar circumstances.
Thanks for responding intelligently. |
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 22:58
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Well, seeing as The Last Days of Gravity was quite a bit worse than A Flock of Bleeps, it seems like this album will follow that trend. I sure hope not... |
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BrettFromTibet
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 05:06
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I saw Younger Brother last night, live, in Denver and I was not at all impressed with the new songs. I went in with a totally open mind. I hadn't heard any samples, was ready to feel and experience something new and different... sure that I'd enjoy their new music, whatever it was.
It didn't happen for me.
Flock of Bleeps was really psychedelic and creative electronica. Last Days of Gravity was different... and more like rock music... but it was decent and chill music worth listening to over and over. It sounded okay on the first listen and kept growing on me.
The new music just sounded like melodramatic emo / pop music... but not even half as good as most of the local rock / jam bands that play at the same venue in Denver. I am sure that it's not the kind of thing that will grow on me: I wouldn't even be inclined to play the album if I got a free copy.
I love Simon and Benji and I know what they're capable of... but something about this particular lineup and team collaboration isn't meshing... so I hope their next move is a more psychedelic one.
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low orbit
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 15:26
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I'm hearing you Brett , fair play for giving the live show a go , I chickened out last month in London , half expecting to hate it ...
I quite like Safety in numbers , Train and System 700 but the rest of it is woeful to my ears , just down right pathetic sounding to me .
It seems Simon is creating Hallucinogen tracks again so it looks like we'll get our psychedelic fix soon ish |
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TechMonkey
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 02:36
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From Simon's (Shpongle) Facebook:
"Wow, our new album "Vaccine" is at number 2 on the US iTunes dance chart! Thanks so much you guys, I love you! Let's try and get it to number one... My mum would finally understand what I do  xxx"
I say good on him for achieving some commercial success. If anything, maybe it will make more people aware of psychedelic chillout and they'll explore deeper.
Listening to it with an open mind, it's good for what it is. If I had stumbled across this work under some other artist name, I'd have bought the album. Really, it's only when I expect psychedelic heavy YB offerings that I'm disappointed. It is a huge departure from the previous YB works, and (IMO) they turned their backs on fan expectations to pursue a more mainstream crowd. Using their fan base to fund it, no less. That bit leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth, but I have to admit the album is skillfully crafted and that it stands up quite nicely on it's own if the expectations of "Younger Brother" are removed. *shrug*
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Apr 13, 2011 10:22
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I spent years deliberately not listening to "Last Days of Gravity" after all the comments people made about it, and when I did, I was only marginally more disappointed than I was led to believe. Though it did have some merit after repeated listening, it still sounds pretty middle of road boring corporate sounding musak to my ears. Trying too hard, would be the way I described it.
This new album from the feedback I am reading seems even worse, and after the last disappointment I can't help but feeling I won't be wasting my cash like I did last time. I doubt I will even download it for free.
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low orbit
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Posted : Apr 14, 2011 22:03
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article from the Times...
The trio have quit their hippy-dippy origins to make in big in Britain
If you are reading this in Moscow or Tel Aviv, Younger Brother may need no introduction. The British electro-prog trio recently played to 3,000 in the Russian capital, and to a similar crowd in Israel’s second city. “We had an amazing light show, Pink Floyd-style production,” remembers the founding member Simon Posford. On home shores, however, their pull is more modest. “We came back to play Bristol and Nottingham to 300 people,” says the 39-year-old Posford, a wry svengali in eyeliner and a black trilby adorned with peacock feathers. “Our manager calls it a ‘brown tour’, referring to the colour of the food we eat. Pork pie from the petrol station, then home to bed.”
But if their new album, Vaccine, a cosmopolitan swirl of electronica, prog, indie and folk, gets its dues, the on-tour sustenance may soon get more colourful. Posford describes it as “Pink Floyd if they lost all their money, played with laptops and had a cross between Thom Yorke and Chris Martin on vocals.”
That weightless falsetto belongs to Ruu Campbell, a Tiggerish foil to the darkly mischievous Posford and who on songs such as Crystalline also sounds a dead ringer for Nick Drake. The other founding member, the elegantly geeky Benji Vaughan, knows Campbell from his days at Charterhouse (they are both 36) and shares production and synth duties with Posford, who also plays guitar. All are charming, self-deprecating company.
Their eccentrically distributed fanbase stems from their emergence via the psychedelic trance scene, the hypnotic dance music community, born among Western hedonists on Goan beaches, which now flourishes in outposts from Eastern Europe to Latin America. Populated by the kind of neo-hippies who favour tie-dye clothing, cod-spirituality and industrial quantities of psychedelic drugs, it’s one of those faintly comical subcultures that, like heavy metal, S&M and role-playing games, exists outside fashion. Posford is one of its gods, releasing throbbing dance music as Hallucinogen and downtempo electronica with Shpongle, whose Magic Roundabout-worthy name hardly assuages accusations of hippy-dippydom. He is happy to retain his links to the scene, but Vaughan, who makes trance as Prometheus, itches to escape it with the broader palette of Vaccine: “It’s like the Mafia: once you’re in they never let you out. I still the love the culture: it’s a complete way of life, very unexplored in the UK. But I’d never go out to a trance party.”
It’s the purism of “trance heads” that puts him off: “The music has to be a certain speed, and if you deviate they go, ‘Oh no!’ For a scene that’s perceived to be open-minded, they’re very trenchant.” Posford nods: “Trance used to be all I wanted to hear. I didn’t want someone singing about some rubbish.”
“Thanks very much!” says Campbell, the singer, in mock indignation.
The Flaming Lips’s Yoshimi vs the Pink Robots and Radiohead’s Kid A were the records that persuaded Vaughan there was a world beyond trance: “They had electronica but they weren’t slaves to making noises; they were creating something with emotion. Trance just felt too narcotic.”
Ah yes, drugs. “The weird thing is that the crowd are f***ed up but we’re just nerds who hang around in studios,” insists Vaughan. Posford has a different take, as you’d expect from a man who goes by the name of Hallucinogen: “I don’t want to drop myself in it with the police but psychedelics have had a huge influence on my life. They are known as mind-expanding for a reason.”
He met Vaughan while the latter was at Bristol University and Posford dated one of his friends. “Benji wanted to lick my brain, to find out how Hallucinogen made his amazing sounds,” smiles Posford, readjusting his trilby. Younger Brother were born in 2003, when they were asked to record a track for a CD to raise money to protect indigenous cultures. They wrote about the Kogi, a northern Colombian tribe who believe they are the “Elder Brothers”, guardians of life on earth, and refer to the rest of the world as “Younger Brother”. Posford says: “We took the name to try and provide something positive from this reckless side of the planet.”
Campbell joined after their second album, The Last Days of Gravity, which narrowly missed out on a Mercury nomination. “Ruu adds a spirituality to the band,” says Posford, “having been a fake guru who dispensed New Age advice to middle-aged women in South America”. Campbell grins: “Good days!”
They moved from electronica to the vocal-based Vaccine, which was recorded at Posford’s home studio in Newbury. “I live by the fence of the Greenham Common site,” he says. “When it rains all the dirt is washed away and you can see all the peace symbols painted on the ground.”
The addition of a singer “naturally meant that the music went somewhere else,” Campbell says. “It was never about: how can we break into the UK market?” Still, it bore tasty fruit, convincing them to leave their comfort zone. “We’re well known in the trance scene, well looked after,” Vaughan says. “Some of our fans will love this record, some will hate it. But it’s a step we have to take.”
Even if that means a few more helpings of brown food |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 15, 2011 00:53
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cool interview.
I totally get that they like to make music besides trance. Plus they're huge Pink Floyd and The Cure fans, so it kind of makes sense.
Totally not my style of music, but I enjoy hearing stuff about their musical direction and I hope they get some props from people who do like that style.
That's what the nice version of me thinks. the mean version hopes that everyone tears it to pieces and they come crying back to the trance scene for love and adulation
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Ott^
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Posted : Apr 15, 2011 12:08
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On 2011-04-15 00:53, willsanquil wrote:
...the mean version hopes that everyone tears it to pieces and they come crying back to the trance scene for love and adulation
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I think you just honestly expressed what a lot of people are inwardly feeling.
I think, whether you like the record or not, they should be applauded for having the balls to make the record they wanted to and not just churn out a paint-by-numbers fan-pleaser.
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iTranscendence
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Posted : Apr 15, 2011 13:36
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OT: cause I know you are monitoring this thread.
Wish you were touring the US with Simon Ott, that way we could have made up for the dismal showing when you were here in Reno, there was close to a thousand people at the knitting factory on Tuesday night. Random Rab was nice, but you would have been such a better accent to Simon.
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