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orgytime
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 14:07
sorry, i dont get it^^ i know that i hav to treat my room. you mean, if i own the basstraps, i should get a sub, otherwise not?

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Aker
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 14:13
Do you honestly think that getting a sub with out dealing with the room acoustics is going to help you with your mixing?
orgytime
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 14:23
no for sure, but ill go for better acoustic treatment in my room soon.           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 14:38
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On 2008-07-01 14:23, orgytime wrote:
no for sure, but ill go for better acoustic treatment in my room soon.



For sucha small room i doubt you need a sub for nearfield mixing.           Demand recognition for the Armenian genocide 1915
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Aker
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 14:45
your speakers only go down to about 55Hz and that will be at about -3dB............so you can't hear whats going on down there.........a sub will be fine in your room if it is treated properly and of course the sub set up properly........but the room treatment is the most import thing here.......and the lower frequencies are generally harder/more expensive to control...........The room size isn't the issue.
orgytime
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 16:02
thank you for the detailed answers           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 16:19
you might want to think about a SPL meter
orgytime
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 17:30
hmm, would be interesting. as you can see in my signature im new i think this is a little bit to deep in the materia of making music. at first ill try to treat the room well, and after ill look further. but if you say a SPL-meter is essential, ill look for one.           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 17:39
if this is the path you want to take then I would say it is a worth while investment........you can use it along with a test tone CD to log the response of your room and calculate treatment.....also for calibrating your monitoring level.
Psy_Clone
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 21:17
thnx everybody for the responds (even if they are not addresed to me) now i know the HS50 are good 4 me, im only a begginer and they will do the job           Now say the magic words: Bleep Bleep Deep Deep Wham.....
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 21:38
I've never heard the Yamaha HS series but if they are anything like their other models, they will give you good bang for the buck.

I have a pair of MSP-10's which are quite old and should really be replaced. The interesting thing is that I just recently used them to master a friend's stuff that produces and mixes everything on Dynaudio BM6's. The BM6's give more resolution and detail but the overall mix picture seems to be less exact. What sounds great on the BM6's shows problems on the MSP-10's and on large PAs!

So the final test is how this all translates to the target -> Club PA's. The stuff mastered on the MSP-10's sounded great on 2 club systems (Martin Audio and another system) and an outdoor PA. So what is really important for mixing? It seems the overall spectral balance is the most important thing.

The Yammy speakers are very good as far as overall spectral balance is concerned. They already got it right with the NS-10's (Hence their popularity) and IMO they got it right with the MSP series. If they managed to get this aspect right with the HS series, they are probably great value for money.

Don't go for KRK. IMO they suck balls. They are just glorified HiFi speakers with a questionable spectral balance. Absolutely no good for mixing or any serious audio work IMO.

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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 21:54
Yes I agree the KRK are horrible :S I must admit I havent read any tests on the HS series, and I havent had the speakers for long at all, but my mixes translate nicely to PA in a pure way. You dont get too suprised

Definetively the most "clean" speakers ive heard in that pricerange so far!

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0hz
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 01:54
i had some experience with the Yamaha HS-50/80

the hs-50 sounds just nasty, no bass and very cold.
the hs-80 sound bigger and warmer but still the sound is nasty to my ears.

im not saying that they are bad for mixing, u hear alot of detail in them and the overall tonal balance seems not bad for the price,but ur ears get tierd fast of how they sound.

also i dont think that the yamahas are good for for mixing any kind of dance music. they are just to cold for that.
in that price range i would pick the samson rubicons or the behringers over the yamahas.

or you can learn from others mistakes and dont buy cheap monitors. save for dynaudio.
Fragletrollet
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 02:26
I totally disagree. I actually just came from my friend who has the Samsons, and they are totally not linear in the sound as the HS50! The yammies might be a bit rough and tiresome for some, but they are detailed and much more balanced than the Samsons atleast!           http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 02:28
And whats the hype with Dynaudios? I think the emphasis should be on knowing your speakers and how they act compared to others, rather than just saving for some more expensive ones. You can make great music on small cheap speakers as long as you really know them! Might be easier on really expensive ones tough...


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