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YAHEL

Sputer
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 00:14


why to be angry dude ? just my way to say i really dont agree with ya.....

take iT Easy           ..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
Follow your heart, not the people around you"
...
Monarch_butterfly


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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 00:20
I'm not angry at all
I just don't think that this is the way to say "I don't think like you".

"Man plz read your sentence again when u'll be not under alcohol influence "

very not nice...

But if we are talking about this
Sub6 also very close to the infected new trance as well as Yahel as well as all the Club secne.

I don't know why do you make too much noise about sub6 thats all...
I can't see the point since their music is not unique at all as well as their music is not twisted as well as their music can't make me jump as 1200 mics for example.
Sputer
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 00:36
welll...... first of all its again, all about taste...
u ask what the rush about them ?...

at least to me, not everyday there is new artist that bring new style to the area...

ofcourse its not jump as 1200... its not suppose to be.... but this style good to home listening as it good to the dancefloor....

i dont think its close to YAHEL at all... Yahel being more more clubber...
dont know if sub want to do club stff or something.. but for now, for me, its called "psytrance" .......

and again..... iTs all about TASTE......           ..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
Follow your heart, not the people around you"
...
Monarch_butterfly


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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 01:04
Quote:

On 2003-11-15 00:36, Sputer wrote:
at least to me, not everyday there is new artist that bring new style to the area...



well
What new style are you talking about?
I can't see anything new in their music and also all they did, infected and yahel already did. and much much better! no compare at all, infected are another level...

I can't see story in their music as well as I can't see story in yahel music.

and I really can't see myself dance to this music in nature party
it is a shame to dance to this in nature party In my opinion.
I can't see 20 years old people who want to get high dance to such a vocalic and childish sounds in nature party (with/without drugs, not talking about drugs).

This music is just not twisted as psytrance should be.
maybe you like club music and you discover it just now hehe;)

anyway "iTs all about TASTE......" as you said.
but my friend, you like club, face it lol
woutski
Zen Mechanics

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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 01:32
Quote:

On 2003-11-15 01:04, Monarch_butterfly wrote:

it is a shame to dance to this in nature party In my opinion.
I can't see 20 years old people who want to get high dance to such a vocalic and childish sounds in nature party (with/without drugs, not talking about drugs).



LOL you obviously haven't witnessed a liveset by the Sub6 maestros yet so you could see how they would make them '20 years old people who want to get high' dig holes in the ground.

And you pretend they are not original? Funny this coming from someone who considers 1200 Mics to be twisted 8)
Monarch_butterfly


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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 01:40
Quote:

And you pretend they are not original? Funny this coming from someone who considers 1200 Mics to be twisted 8)





are you trying to compare who have much twsited music btween sub6 and 1200mic

man
I cant belive you just say this!

the effect that 1200mic do to people brains in the dancefloor and in home listening is much much [b]much higer [\b] than sub6.
you kill me with this one

I can't see the point of someone who compare between 1200mics and sub6.
Man 1200 mics project is too much far for sub6
there are amateur comparing to 1200mics if you talk about twsited and power.

And actually there is nothing to talk since they(sub) make club and 1200mics are nature animales!

Man you should learn already...
hehe
I'm getting tired of this name...
Leave me alone now
Hodi
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 02:12
sub6 is kinda freestyle, they have one dancefloor killer related track (Teder Beseder with Pixel)

and they mix pop with some trance and a bit of club (Ra Heya melody anyone???)

sub6 is just... sub6!           u can find "Anything U Want" using the search...
Monarch_butterfly


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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 02:20
by the way

for those who talk about original shit

original doesn't mean good!
I like original stuff, but sometimes original shit is such a big bullshit!

give me 1200mics, astrix, wizzy noise...etc.

They speak with their melodies and they kill you on the dancefloor and they make twsited and psychedelic as well.
This is why i like them
This is what make me buy their music!
This is why i will never buy such a cluby cd and There is nothing to compare between those who i get tired of them (yahel, sub6 and also the new infected) to those I present (1200mics astrix wizzy noise etc...)

that's it
I finished my work here.
now you can leave me

oh almost forgot to say - I talk about infected trance in the bad position, but their freestyle chill is the best.
so don't think i don't have respect
I respect good music. (only good) I could respect infected much more if they would never release such a crapy trance anymore.
because it seems like they work 4 days to make the trance cd. I would buy only the freestyle if it would be possible.
DETOX
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 04:24
Monarch my friend its all a matter of taste,i find Sub6 much more psychedelic than any track of GMS,1200 Micrograms or even Astrix that you mentioned.Psychedelic doesnt only means 146 BPM and melodies all around you know.

And Yahel is for a long time now a club trance orientated artist,he still has some psychedelic elements in his music and his dj sets but mainly he deals with more mainstream and easy listening music.I like him.
          Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Monarch_butterfly


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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 05:50
Detox m8 we talk about psychedelic TRANCE not just psychedelic.

Every music have psychedelic effects such as reverb, delay vocoder and much more complicated effect.
dance music, rock music, house music...etc

It is about the power of the music, The sounds they use in the synths.
There is a wicked synth and there is a childish synth sound.


Even we use these effect for our progressive rock band, but it doesn't make our music "psychedelic rock" because of the FX we use, our music is psychedelic because the guitars and the keboard and the drums and all the other thing work together and tell a story.

The same in rock, I'm sure lots of the people here don't know how to recognize metal rock between other rock genres.
It is about the power/the rhythms/the synths and the style of the melodies. in rock genres as well as in trance genres

PsyTrance without goa melodies or without any important instruments is like rock without guitar pr. end of story.

a piece of cake/shit (choose what you want hehe)

If you ask me, the underground bullshit effect kids to make psytrance and they don't even know chords, not to talk about scales.

conclusion: First of all it is about style of melodies and synths, and if you want to make more noise about sub6 so they have no psytrance style in their synths, they have house/club style. POP.

Second It is also about taste as you said, but if you like them it doesn't mean they make psytrance.

Third (this one is just for the record about the crap around the brainwashed people in the psytrance genre) one of the must anooying thing! when I try to listen to minimal or any underground I find too much artists there that sound so bad.
The fact is that people who listen to broken scales and nonsense chords or any stupid nonsense music ideas (I mean really nonsense) hurt the listener's musical hearing. this is sad!!!.
they don't even know about scales or chords, did they play the keboard or the guitar ever? no way
the third one is not about this topic but something I just felt at the moment to write about, because it make me pissed off when there are such undeveloped artists in this scene, some of them don't know even how to recognize the style they listen and make. it is a shame.
and this is why must of audience in the trance scene is so undeveloped musical.


crap, I'm out.

Ps - hmmm if I was "sound" a bit rude, don't be mistaken I wasn't;)
Detox.
you gave nice point by the way.
pr0fane
Multiphase

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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 12:48
Quote:

On 2003-11-15 01:04, Monarch_butterfly wrote:
I can't see anything new in their music and also all they did, infected and yahel already did. and much much better! no compare at all, infected are another level...



I'd really want some tracktitles for the stuff that Infected and Yahel did, that was similar to Sub6, yet so much better. Must be some unreleased killars I guess, cuz I haven't heard it.

I was actually at a party with both Sub6 and Infected Mushroom last weekend, and their sets where significantly different. Not that Infected where bad though. Actually better than I expected, and much better than their set in Skive last year.

Bottom line, to me it doesn't really matter how you would label Sub6. All I know is that for me their style is totally fresh, and suitable for both the couch and the dancefloor. But luckily taste differs           DJ pr0fane (Iboga Records) | Multiphase
www.sunrisesupplies.com | www.iboga.dk | www.soundcloud.com/pr0fane
woutski
Zen Mechanics

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Posts :  275
Posted : Nov 15, 2003 13:58
Mr Buttercup here brought out the truth....we might just as well admit it Profane....we like POP/House music because we dig Sub6. Quite shocking huh?!
Monarch_butterfly


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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 14:32
woutski, my nick is not "Buttercup", stop zijn kinderlijk!

Well, you keep dig to sub6 while we will keep dance like animals in 1200mics/astrix you know the others...

Sometimes the childish fights here make me ask myself "why do I answer you at all"

pr0fane, please read all the message I wrote above.
And give me details about:
Why do you think sub6 are original?
What is psytrance in your point of view?
What kind of tricks sub6 make that make you like them? (I will show you that you make too much noise for nothing! bullshit nada...)

And maybe after you will respect my message and reply to the whole message and not just to the part that make it easy for you to open fight, I will give you respected reply as well and show you how sub6 try to be comercial as infected and yahel with no success in my point of view since infected/yahel are 10 levels upward.

PS - woutski stop being rude and childish, this is just a conversation.
I really want to know what all the big noise about them, is it just a promotion or is there something I missed, because I can't find something special in their music.

Well, I'm getting too tired talking about them, may someone give me some truthful reply without childish attacks?
Zombi
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posts :  5032
Posted : Nov 15, 2003 18:42
listen to butterfly ep and say me its a childish stuff.           Believe your soul !
Manibus
Manibus

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Posted : Dec 10, 2003 22:54
have somebody email of yahel?
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