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Y use a multiband compressor on a single instrument.Wouldnt eq b good enuf?
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 2, 2006 15:08
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Hi every1.
Any thoughts on this?
As I write this I realise u could change the envelope of a particular freq range,or give it more stability.
Wouldnt this b overkill tho?
what else could u do with it.
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C3PO
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14-year old e-tard
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Say you have a busy synth line with a resonant filter opening and closing across the whole range. As the filter sweeps, different frequencies will get a boost, whilst others will be attenuated. If the synth part is far out of control you use a multi-band compressor to sort things out. That's one example I can think of the top of my head.
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 2, 2006 15:34
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ok e-tard. thats really nice. any other ideas? Y would sum1 use it on a basslin without filter sweeps? |
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Feb 2, 2006 15:40
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You might want to do that on a bassline patch where 2 or more oscillators (not synced) are used and there is loads of low end rumble as they phase in and out. If you wanna keep the mid phasing, but want a more consistent low end, you compress those low frequencies and leave the rest unaffected.
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Shanti Alien
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fregle
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Posted : Feb 2, 2006 19:23
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An EQ in front of a simple compressor can achieve most results you an achieve with a multiband compressor. Because then you use the EQ to cut the sound in bands which can be lowered and hightened in volume... But it's not exactly like a multiband compressor, it only behaves a lot like it. If you just want to cut frequencies out of your sound, then yes, you only need an EQ. If you want to attenuate the frequencies that aren't cut, you'll need a compressor after the EQ. But a multiband compressor is better for that kind of thing... |
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 08:38
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thanks doods. all gr8 ideas. |
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Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 14:01
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these compressors, do they have to be used before or after eqing your sound? eg: bassline.
and any chance someone could briefly describe what these settings like threshold, attack range etc mean?
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 14:28
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If u wan2 eq the same regions as u wan2 compress then u can just use the multiband, otherwise I would imagine u would use eq b4, although this is contested.
Dude its basically a compressor that works on a frequency range.
u could achieve the same results by eq bandpassing different portions of a sound through different single compressors, & sum up at the end.
like any compressor it has the same uses i.e. envelope shaping & dynamics control, except now u can do it on different frequency ranges. which means attack, release, threshold, ratio all work the same as a single compressor.
Only reason I asked Y 2 use it is coz c4 (waves multiband compressor) is a resource hog, & Im weighing up the uses. |
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 14:32
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speaking of which, how do u guys feel about the cubase native multiband compressor, as opposed 2 the waves c4? |
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 15:16
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heres an excerpt from sound on sound
"Because synthesizers are electronically generated sources that can be controlled in level via MIDI velocity, it may seem that there's little need to compress them, but there are occasions on which compression can be of benefit. Furthermore, there are times when multi-band compression will yield better results than full-band compression. For example, take the case of a sound based around a resonant filter sweep. If you apply full-band compression to tame the (often significant) increase in peak level at the sweep's centre frequency, the whole sound is reduced in level, sometimes dramatically. In this instance, multi-band compression may yield more transparent results by keeping the peak under control, but without changing the level in the other frequency bands. In the case of a three-band compressor, this means that heavy compression will only ever be occurring in one of the three bands at any one time.
Level peaking may also occur when two sounds are beating with each other or where a flange effect is being applied (due to the peaks and troughs caused by comb filtering), and though full-band compression will control the level, a multi-band compressor will do so much more transparently. A similar situation exists when you have a bass synth sound that also has a lot of higher harmonics. By using a multi-band compressor, the bass end (which is where most of the energy resides) can be kept at an even level without the level of the higher frequencies pumping up and down in sympathy." |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Feb 5, 2006 12:54
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Tip: try not to get carried away when using multiband compression. I did, and ended up looking for things i could do with all those compressors  In my experience, looking for a tool to fix a problem works way better than looking for a problem to fix with a tool.
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bukboy
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Just fascinated by multiband. another artist Im collaborating with seems to like putting it on his bass. couldnt think of a reason Y so I asked. Personally I only use light eq on bass, & maybe a bit of compression if the waveform looks/sounds 2 weak.
But I can see the reason now. he doesnt like the mids to get ducked with the lows.gr8 tip.Still have to play with this as I myself am not sure if the effect is worth the cpu cycles.
Thanks dudes. I feel Ive learnt a lot. |
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