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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 22, 2004 01:26
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could someone tell me or give me a link to a site that gives information on how to write music in keys. for example, if i wanted to write a song in A Minor, what notes are in the A Minor scale/key? And maybe even some information on what mood each key sets. I did some searching, but couldnt find anything. Im sure something is out there.
(A minor was just an example, i really dont want to write in it) |
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Posted : Jan 22, 2004 02:25
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Well scale and key are two seperate but similar things.
When talking about writing in a key, such as the Key of A minor, that simply means that A acts as the melodic center of the song and the A minor chord acts as the harmonic center. Stating a key is just aligning your music in a note and tonality.
Scale on the other hand, you can think of as a number of notes that you can pick your melodies from. They have a fundamental note that relates to them. For instance, if you did the song in the A minor scale, the notes would be ABCDEFGA. Minor scales are always Wholestep, Halfstep, Wholestep, Wholestep, Halfstep, Wholestep, Wholestep. Major Scales are always Wholestep, Wholestep, Halfstep, Wholestep, Wholestep, Wholestep, Halfstep. |
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Jan 22, 2004 12:48
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I dont want to let you down "soft" but this is not the way to learn about writing music! you dont know nothing about scales and you think a link on the net will teach you?
sit by a piano for an hour with an educated musician and you will know a lot more.
sit by a piano for a year with yourself and you`ll know a lot lot more!
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kada
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Posted : Jan 22, 2004 14:00
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Yes. Sit by a piano with a teacher can open you mind for the basic musical theory. Althought you can teach yourself by a book, i think the start point is interesting to learn with a profissional.
I studied guitar on the past and the musical theory (scales, acords..) that i learn i can use it in electronic music too.
Have fun on you jouney. It will be great! |
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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 22, 2004 21:13
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i guess scale wasnt the right word.
i have had formal music training, so i do know quite a bit about playing music, just not writting music. for example, if i was to write a song using A as the "harmonic center" would that change any of the notes fallowing it? would it add a sharp or flat to certain notes?
sorry about the scale part, i really didnt think about it. thats a little bit of commen sense that slipped by me. |
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kada
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Posted : Jan 22, 2004 22:02
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Now is me that dont undestand what u guys are trying to say with 'harmonic center'. i guess you re talking about the scale that the song flows into.
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Jan 23, 2004 13:55
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hey soft I really dont understand what your tryin to figure out here!
write the music like you wanna hear it and not by rules.
I like in music the notes that are off scale but you gotta know when to play or you`ll sound like you`r out of tune. somehow in classic music it sounds more right than in trance..
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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 23, 2004 19:54
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i guess the only way is to mess around. i just cant seem to make it sound right unless im writtin in C flat. it just sounds out of tune otherwise. |
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Boogieman
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Posted : Jan 23, 2004 20:47
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solipt1c
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Posted : Jan 23, 2004 20:59
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i know i could explain this
but short of a full tutorial (which i've been working on slowly for months) i dont really know how to in a forum post.
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whatever works in C flat (which, Btw is "B"), just transpose that into any other key and its the same. This works with any scale - keep the INTERVALS the same, and the scale is the same, wherever you start.
Examples. (The number in brackets is the number of semitones between the notes in the scale either side of it).
major:
C (2) D (2) E (1) F (2) G (2) A (2) B (1) C
harmonic minor:
C (2) D (1) Eb (2) F (2) G (1) Ab (3) B (1) C
one of my favourite goa modes (borrowed from the ozrics!):
C (1) Db (3) E (1) F (2) G (1) Ab (2) Bb (2) C
So if I want to use that last mode in G, it becomes:
G Ab B C D Eb F G
Is this any sort of answer to your question? if not try and explain better what u want clearing up.
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EYB
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Posted : Jan 23, 2004 21:04
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Do the sound that you like. If you listen your tracks and you have to stand up and dance, than you've done it right! |
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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 23, 2004 21:16
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On 2004-01-23 20:59, solipt1c wrote:
This works with any scale - keep the INTERVALS the same, and the scale is the same, wherever you start.
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if i understand correctly, you are speaking of "half steps" and "full steps" between notes on a keyboard, right? so if i was to move up a key, you would just keep the amount of steps between notes the same? correct me if im wrong.
thats pretty hard to put into words, so you may not be able to understand what im saying... but thats the way most of this thread has been so far. |
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solipt1c
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Posted : Jan 23, 2004 21:22
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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 24, 2004 14:21
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thanks a lot! im going to be messing around to see if i can finally make something outside of B sound in-tune.
thanks again guys for all the help. |
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