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writing long chords
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CEgreg
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Posted : Feb 11, 2013 02:58:05
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hello
so I am writing some pads. I played the melody on my keyboard one note at a time, automated the attack and moved notes so that it all went together nicely.
Then I turned the notes into chords. Doing this has made notes overlap, thus cancel out. I can fix this by using logic's note overlap correction, but where a note has a long attack I am left with a distinct gap in the sound, even with a long release.
I could copy the instrument and play the chords on a 2nd instrument, but I feel there must be a better way of writing long chords than this? |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Feb 11, 2013 03:34
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Padmapani
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Posted : Feb 11, 2013 19:58
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the only thing that i can think of, that makes notes drop out in this case, is a limited number of polyphony voices. what synth are you using? most of logic's synths have a "voices" control. try increasing that one. |
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CEgreg
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Posted : Feb 11, 2013 20:11
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I'm using massive, but even with voices maxed out it still cancels. Bare in mind I am talking about two identical notes.
lengthening the notes does work quite nicely. thanks for the help |
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CEgreg
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Posted : Feb 11, 2013 22:57
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writing pads seems like the longest hardest part to me. i'm sure there must be an easier way than what i'm doing.
So what i do is play notes on the keyboard, then automate the attack in combination with moving the notes forward in time and extending them, with a fast attack on the bar.
Then i copy the midi notes to form the appropriate chord on each note (i know there is a tool in logic to play notes as chords, i'll give that a try next time). Change a few of them into diminished chords.
It takes loads of tweaking to get right, though, and in the end still doesn't sound right.
I can't help but think that there must be an easier way.
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makus
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 01:37
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On 2013-02-11 02:58:05, CEgreg wrote:
Then I turned the notes into chords. Doing this has made notes overlap, thus cancel out.
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that's midi restrictions, not VST/AU.
just glue together same notes, that's it.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Feb 13, 2013 22:38
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I really dont understand the problem, Of course if a sound has slow attack and you begin a new cycle it will take the given attack time before it comes alive again.
So if you are writing a pad sequence with slow attack you just need to put the second chord sequence a bit earlier so it starts when you want it too.
I dont understand about midi restrictions or cancel out, To me it sounds like everything is in order, only wrong method.
Writing a smooth pad sequence takes time and work and sometimes you need to "ride" the amp Adsr to make it smooth, and like i said put chord or notes a bit earlier so they blend together...
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Freeflow
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Posted : Feb 14, 2013 23:28
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Now i understand,
I always thought it was the synth´s fault when it cancel out on supposedly long sounds, for example when you write a long note and the adsr is set to forever but it still cancel out after a certain amount of time.
Is that a midi fault? cause with some synths it works real good and with some synths it cancel out...
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