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IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Sep 20, 2013 00:05
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Yeah, its so boring to know what exactly is going to come after the current track... one more track by the same artist on his "live act", on his same style and same sounds.
  "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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Xamanist
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Posted : Sep 20, 2013 00:47
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Again, this come back on everyone.
Live-acts to strict at one type of sound with very little experimenting.
People that want to hear one specific type of trance at a specific hour (dark at night, prog in the morning, etc).
Promoters that don't want critics about that wrong sound at that hour.
DJs that are also strict to one type of sound, don't have enough set time to develop a story and want to please the specific crowd at that time of the night or day.
On another note, how many times we hear a dj set that ends slower than it starts?
This is a nightmare for the morning DJ/ Live-act that has to start is set dropping down 10-20 bpms like a bomb 
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ocelot
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Posted : Sep 22, 2013 11:44
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1) it need not be a radical shift in bpm or style, just SOMETHING changing in flavor/tone of tracks
2) i don't see WHY a live act has to play only one sound either... perhaps they only made 10 tracks in their life and thats why they all sound the same?
or perhaps they hit upon a "formula"?
3) i'm saying this because as I frequently find myself on parties hearing 10-12 hour stretches of music at a time all in the same basic flavor... gets old...
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Upavas
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Posted : Sep 23, 2013 07:19
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Define one sound Aaron! you mean same bass over and over again or same Israeli cheese or same drones or what?
The only same flavor I get a lot of time are some well established acts shelling out the same tunes again and again, in diffferent variations, basically because they have run out of ideas...I do NOT count you under those, more like some of the Nano Records specialists and the likes... your 2 cents on that please!
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klippel
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Posted : Sep 23, 2013 19:43
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i always come back to the same conclusion:
if you put heart into music, you cannot simply stick to one formula, as your feelings are diverse and unique.
there is so much hyperpolished shallow music in the prog scene, so much totally overnoized hard-psy-killarghhh-core out there, it was never more easy to stick out 
simply make music always how you feel in your life and it´ll be unique, diverse and stick out, it comes naturally, for sure.
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"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons |
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dick hardman
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Posted : Sep 24, 2013 02:10
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"would be nice to hear more than one same sound for an entire set..."
Suomi would take care of this.
Has funky, proggy, wonky, dark, breaks etc. No rules, all dimensions.
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camundongo
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 03:04
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how am i supposed to reach a state of trance when the dj keeps changing it up? that shit messes with my chakras man. |
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OzMike
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 05:14
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just quickly popping in to say that IMO techno with a more tribal or even minimal edge is much more trance inducing than a lot of actual trance music.
If you look at the actual tradition of trance it was minimal repetitive rhythms played at a more steady beat often with chanting in a monotone.
I have not had a true trance experience listening to goa or psy of the last 2 decades unless I was on something but hearing some very proficient dj's in the past such as Carl Cox, Sven Vath, Carl Craig & Jeff Mills doing extended sets were much more hypnotic and trance inducing.
Also go see Swans the band live. I've hallucinated with nothing but the music many times to their live shows. Their albums and DVDs fail to translate this way at all though.
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klippel
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 08:52
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if you make trance without long breaks and long transitions in a certain bpm range (130-140 preferrably) it can be trance inducing.
my brain gets bored along minimal or techno after a while, it might be more repetitive and trance inducing in a classical way, derived from archaic rituals that is, but its not for all to shut down your brain completely and move the groove only.
for me its constant pounding kick/bass combos with sparse melodic and rhytmic elements on top as my recipe. hence my tracks are always 7-10 minutes long and do not have long/many breaks.
its not like oldschool goa what i make, but the formula with something to have fun with and a continous beat to dance to that i use as well. most modern styles have lotsa breaks and stupid "rising till the climax" over and over again bullshit going on that prevents any trance feeling at all.
fo me music must be "intelligent enough" to tell a story and keep your neurons tickled and repetitive enough to keep your feed on track withou thinking about it, i.e. reach a bodily trance state.
all very subjective obviously.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Sep 25, 2013 10:34
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