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Conny
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Posted : May 18, 2013 17:12:33
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I often make my songs with softsynths , but how do do it? do you reimport your tracks as audio files? I´ve seen many youtube tutorials
where they use a lot of audiofiles in the arrangewindow. What are the advantages with working with audio? Does the whole sound better comparing to when you only use softsynths? |
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makus
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Posted : May 18, 2013 17:17
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tweak the synth, process it while in midi, export to audio, process more, export again, process even more! 
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metamorphosis music
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Posted : May 19, 2013 12:23
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working with audio or instrument tracks/midi is same sound, but after some time if project gets heavy so advantage exporting will help ur cpu, n if u want to apply audio processing like reverses,time stetch...
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : May 19, 2013 15:27
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On 2013-05-18 17:17, makus wrote:
tweak the synth, process it while in midi, export to audio, process more, export again, process even more!
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+1
i bounce all my channels to audio and i keep some freezed in case that i dont be sure 100% and maybe i want to change something later. i love the process to work with audio.
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woodster77
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Posted : May 19, 2013 16:50
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i find myself constantly tweeking softsynths and never really getting THERE.......so yah work with audio and commit yourself
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jekvan
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Posted : May 19, 2013 19:43
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Yea,as said here,one of the problems that you cannot decide your direction if you have too many choices,and you have to limit yourself.So bouncing to audio is good way to commit and go on towards the final goal which is finishing the track .
If you fear you loosing tweaks that your synth has to provide-anything you can do in the synth,you can do with external plugins.
And if not,tough luck,remember that the art of making music is extracting from infinite field of sounds,structuring what is mess,working against the nature and going from the state of high entropy to the state of low.All that babble is going to this point : your composing progress can go to infinite directions,and each way is just as good as the other,as long as you commit yourself to extract something you can call coherent and stand alone piece of art.
I personally use synths during the stage of building sounds.After that,its all audio and samplers,it is good for CPU and it is good for linear composing instead of getting stuck on how can i work on that sound more.And if I do want to work on it more,there are tons of external plugins which distort,filter,phase,make your sounds talk and whatnot.It is also a good practice to chain several plugins to get interesting results.
One important note:Save somewhere on the side your midi notes,which is actually important if you want to go and add something or change something.I have dedicated midi channels without instruments on them,and the only purpose is the save the notes ,if I want to add something later.
From all the things I lost,that sandwitch cost me most :)
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jekvan
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Posted : May 19, 2013 19:56
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But a note of warning:Beware of tails.
If you have midi pattern which you want to loop,and you record it with effects ,it will leave tails which glide to the next pattern.Then you will have a problem if you want to loop that pattern,you will have to cut the tail and it can get weird.
Turn off the effects (for example delay),record the audio,and put that delay on the audio channel.
From all the things I lost,that sandwitch cost me most :)
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makus
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Posted : May 19, 2013 22:17
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On 2013-05-19 19:43, jekvan wrote:
Yea,as said here,one of the problems that you cannot decide your direction if you have too many choices,and you have to limit yourself.So bouncing to audio is good way to commit and go on towards the final goal which is finishing the track .
If you fear you loosing tweaks that your synth has to provide-anything you can do in the synth,you can do with external plugins.
And if not,tough luck,remember that the art of making music is extracting from infinite field of sounds,structuring what is mess,working against the nature and going from the state of high entropy to the state of low.All that babble is going to this point : your composing progress can go to infinite directions,and each way is just as good as the other,as long as you commit yourself to extract something you can call coherent and stand alone piece of art.
I personally use synths during the stage of building sounds.After that,its all audio and samplers,it is good for CPU and it is good for linear composing instead of getting stuck on how can i work on that sound more.And if I do want to work on it more,there are tons of external plugins which distort,filter,phase,make your sounds talk and whatnot.It is also a good practice to chain several plugins to get interesting results.
One important note:Save somewhere on the side your midi notes,which is actually important if you want to go and add something or change something.I have dedicated midi channels without instruments on them,and the only purpose is the save the notes ,if I want to add something later.
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wise words my friend!
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willsanquil
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Posted : May 21, 2013 22:39
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when I want to tweak something in audio I duplicate the MIDI track that I'm working on, then freeze/flatten the duplicate and then do any audio work I want.
Audio is a vastly different workflow than MIDI and has its own set of advantages - reversing, slicing+re-arranging, crossfading, stretching, adjusting the pitch etc. You need to master both in order to get the best and most interesting sounds out of your studio.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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