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Windows on Mac book pro production machine?
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GyPsynate
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Posted : Nov 11, 2009 20:16:24
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I am going to be upgrading from old P4 PC to a Mac book pro in about a month and was wanting to do a doul boot with Windows 7 and OSX(snowlep)... Now I know that a lot of other people are doing this seem to be doing well.
Here is my situation, This will be for both my main production machine and my traveling live performance machine.
I produce in Cubase 5 with reason 4 rewired and am going to be use'in Ableton Live for my live sets. Now what I was thinking was I would use Ableton on Mac side and my Cubase production on the Windows side.
I caint afford to buy all new software for Mac or I would just go all out. Is there anyone els who is producing on a mac through Windows? Even though its windows will the Mac take all my programs? Cracked and not?
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Greententacle
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Posted : Nov 11, 2009 21:26
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vegetal
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Posted : Nov 11, 2009 22:40
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GyPsynate
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Posted : Nov 11, 2009 23:27
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Not really...
Yes you can make a PC with an OSX but that does not make it a Mac.
And vise versa...
We are talking about hardware,configuration and 2 seperate companies who pay completely different engineers to design the system.
The only thing that is the same is the processors (brain).
The OS is just the controls for the hardware...
You can put a ford engine in a chevy but that does not make it a ford.
A systems stability has to do with the OS working with the hardware to run your programs.
All of these have to work seamlessly together for any kind of stability. And thats ware Mac has come up on top, they have figured out a good middle ground for all these to work together well.
I have always been a (pissed off never happy with my) "PC" and it took a whole lot to convice me that I need a Mac. It comes down to if we all had the money to get a Mac book pro we would. Now that I can get one I'm going to.
Has anyone ever heard sombody say "Man I wish I had gone for the Dell insted of the Mac?"
Probably not.
Nothing agaist the hackentosh or anyone who runs one. I know other artists who are running systems like that and seem ok, but I have been dealing with less then adiquit pc's my whols computer life so I'm going to try out the other side of the tracks and see if it works out better for me. \\\"Invoking the inner dancing buddha with future frequencies from beyond\\\" ~GyPsy
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 09:42
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Once you go mac you will never go back 
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Majoon
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 10:37
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On 2009-11-12 09:42, Dennis the menace wrote:
Once you go mac you will never go back
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vegetal
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 13:14
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On 2009-11-11 23:27, GyPsynate wrote:
Not really...
Yes you can make a PC with an OSX but that does not make it a Mac.
And vise versa...
We are talking about hardware,configuration and 2 seperate companies who pay completely different engineers to design the system.
The only thing that is the same is the processors (brain).
The OS is just the controls for the hardware...
You can put a ford engine in a chevy but that does not make it a ford.
A systems stability has to do with the OS working with the hardware to run your programs.
All of these have to work seamlessly together for any kind of stability. And thats ware Mac has come up on top, they have figured out a good middle ground for all these to work together well.
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YEs we are talking about the hardware, and no its not only the CPU.
THe graphics comes from Nvidia, the memory comes from Corsair ( what i´ve seen) the only part i haven´t found a manufacturer for is the motherboard, and the screen is probably manufactured by samsung. The only design i can come up with that apple did themself is the chassi, and some testing to make sure that the hardware works well together, just like any other Laptop manufacturer.
Imagine what a mac would cost if Apple were to develop all the components by themselves.
Why not buy a laptop manufactured by frost ( http://www.frostacm.com/ ) or some other company that specific develop DAW:s then you know you have a dedicated computer made for music.
And to be honest about stability, I don´t even agree that MAC is the top, i know people that have experienced stability issues with a mac just as i´ve seen PC users that has stability issues, its a 50/50 case, based on personal experience.
REcently there was alot of issues with the graphics from Nvidia since there was a huge flaw in their GPU:s because they had redesignd the chip which led to problems with imidiate shutdowns and powerdowns. http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/99597
So if we are gonna bring in some car analogy in the end its like comparing the hardware in cadillac BLS and SAAB 9-3, thats is based on the same engine bottom plate,specs and components but the cadillac brand is more expensive.
Discussing MAC with a mac owner is like trying to convert a taliban with a bombbelt ready to yell out "allahu akbar" to Atheism
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PsyTonic
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 14:51
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Mac's are great computers for a limited number of applications - its the snobs and emo's that use them that give me the shits!
I am a tech for both PC and Mac, and believe me, both have there equal share of problems!
I agree with Vegetal RE Saving you money!
The high cost of a Mac computer is due to the quality of electronics (hardware/parts) within the system.
If you purchased a good quality PC Notebook with Core2Duo CPU and Centrino setup, then your looking at an equally reliable system as a Mac of similar specs but saving atleast $500!!
PC's offer a computer for every budget. If you buy a cheap PC computer, expect poor quality of parts which in return - a higher risk of a fault.
You also have much more compatibility options with software and hardware going PC.
Just a few things to think about......
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GyPsynate
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 19:52
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Well I looked into the Frost company and with just one upgrade to 4 gigs of RAM it ended up at $2,461.65 Plus shiping i think...
That is not going to help me save money but it is not a bad idea... But I doubt I'll end up going that way.
I know some people here in th states that do the same thing as this frost company but I wont get the support and the peace of mind.
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Ascension
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 21:27
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vegetal
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 21:55
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GyPsynate
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 22:10
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You get what you pay for Ascension in a year at most you'll be maxing that machine out. Then everything will start to go out right as your warentee runs out. Dell is known for that.
Plus its not fast at all and even with 4 gigs of ram your Processor is slow.
Sorry but I would say you paid to much.
Thanx for the info Vegi!
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GyPsynate
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 22:51
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Ascension
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 23:07
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On 2009-11-12 22:10, GyPsynate wrote:
You get what you pay for Ascension in a year at most you'll be maxing that machine out. Then everything will start to go out right as your warentee runs out. Dell is known for that.
Plus its not fast at all and even with 4 gigs of ram your Processor is slow.
Sorry but I would say you paid to much.
Thanx for the info Vegi!
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It's actually an HP, my last laptop was a dell (which worked fine for 4 years).
I bought it in August 2008. It's been with me playing outside- in the sun, in the hot, in the cold, in the dust, I've traveled a ton with it too and it still is working just fine despite all the porn/programs and other crap I've put on it. Dell's are great computers and all the programs and plug-ins I want and use run on it without problems. http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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vegetal
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 23:41
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