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Will music ever sound the same?

bodfum


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Posted : Jun 15, 2013 13:44:05
I grew up surrounded by music. Mum playing Elvis, dad playing anything that wasn't Elvis!!!!!! Have played several instruments since I was 5, but consider myself a drummer (the 1st album I bought was Prince Charming by Adam & The Ants, remember them???, just cause I loved them drums). I love music of all forms, listen day and night (my better half reckons she doesn't recognise me without my cans on ( at least I'm getting to know my h'phones!!)). Problem is ....

Now I'm analyzing everything I listen to, even my old favourites like Ozrics, Gong and Floyd. I can't seem to switch off. I've tried everything from rolling the ubiquitous (had to look that one up!!) joint to getting hammered on vodka and I still can't stop. How do you guys enjoy music for musics sake? Do you analyse everything you listen to?           “Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.”
Frank Zappa
Xsze


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Posted : Jun 15, 2013 14:46
Yes, but as soon you get more grip you will notice only the things you are interested in and rest of them will be faded, like when you are trying to nail some good bass, guess what is poking your attention in every freaking track lol

It's critical listening, sometimes is good, sometimes is just ruining everything, but it will fade away as soon as you start developing better hearing, like you can spot some thing pretty fast and you just don't care, but you know it is there and if someone ask you you know what you heard, but you let yourself just feel the music, like on/off.

Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 15, 2013 14:46
Pretty much! It's not the problem it used to be for me, luckily. Can't analyse and sing at the same time though, or play piano.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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makus
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Posted : Jun 15, 2013 15:08
bodfun, are you trying to enjoy music on monitors?           
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knocz
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Posted : Jun 15, 2013 16:27
What has been learned cannot be unlearned: and your perception of music will never be the same.

Is that good or bad? Now I cant listen to music without analyzing, and I lost a lot of appetite in many music genres due to that -> there's no food for the brain or for the heart. I feel it's made me more selective and demanding, but that's the process of evolution. I'm glad I'm not into the music that made me evolve, because it means I know more.

Let's take a baby for instance, never heard a tune in his life so everything is new. And the stuff that really sounds great (harmonious) together, like kiddy songs in a Major key, just sounds perfect. Over a couple of years, you've heard so mush that you want more, and you start developing your tastes. Nowaways I seek the more obscure sounding scales and chords to learn more and eventually be surprised again.

Ask yourself: what music did you hear 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 years ago, and you'll see evolution carving it's path. And, in another 10 years, you'll certainly be searching for something more.

This doesn't require an altered state to enjoy: when I get into my car an play the radio (classical music) I'm usually sober (but stressed). Music is the soundtrack for that state. And not all music is to be enjoyed while wasted.


Or, go take some lsd and try to stand still in the middle of a psy dance floor for a couple of hours Nothing will sound the same again           Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
frisbeehead
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Posted : Jun 15, 2013 16:36
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On 2013-06-15 15:08, makus wrote:
bodfun, are you trying to enjoy music on monitors?




I do that all the time, even my headphones are studio rate - so there's no escape.

On topic, this happens to me a lot. Got to the point I could barely dance on some parties because I wasn't able to turn of the critical listening mode. Happens also with drawing: you begin to look for the information relevant to your work (like shapes and tones) in everything you look at.

Tip: just double the dose of whatever and keep the faith XD
vector_0
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Posted : Jun 15, 2013 17:05
yeah, i know what you mean. I went through a couple years recently where I hardly listened to any music for pleasure. I stopped listening to psytrance in my free time a while ago so that when I go to a party it will sound fresh and new to me. I also stopped listening to ambient music because after listening to it for so many years it changed my ears to just want to listen to the actual ambience around me...wind, birds, kids, cars, etc. So I've plunged myself deep into my own music in quest of originality...I figure if I'm not listening to anything remotely like the music I make, I'll have an untainted approach to making a song.

music is finally starting to come back to me in my free time, though, after these years of listening to nothing. but it is indeed more expanded, and less focused on specific genres. I like listening to jazz, but i'm purposefully not going all-in with figuring out all the subgenres, eras, individuals, etc so that I can just put on the radio and be happy. I also like listening to hard rap from the early 90's because its so unlike anything I could ever do on my own and its a LOT of fun. and Rush put out an album last year that was fucking awesome and made me dig out my old Rush albums and also some early Black Sabbath...I forgot how much I liked that stuff. finally, classic trance (of the hard desert variety) has really caught my ear and I've been putting that on quite frequently.

I say just follow the path the music is taking you down. you'll learn more about yourself and about music in general that way than if you just force yourself to keep listening to what you thought was your favorite stuff. like Lester Bangs said, "Music, you now, true music - not just rock n roll - it chooses you. It lives in your car, or alone listening to your headphones, you know, with the cast scenic bridges and angelic choirs in your brain. It's a place apart from the vast, benign lap of America."
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bodfum


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Posted : Jun 16, 2013 02:34
Makus, I listen almost exclusively on headphones (Shure SRH440 at home and Senn HD25 when out walking). My landlady has banned speakers in all bedrooms!!!

Xsze, stuffs been kinda poking me since I first started playing, it's just that now everything seems to jump out and want my attention.

Knocz, the music that helped me evolve was a mixture of classical (Mozart, Chopin, Bach etc) and Floyd, Zappa, Hawkwind and anything else with an edge or an attitude. I get what you say about "What can be learned". Maybe that's the problem. The more I learn about production, the more I'm asking myself "How'd they do that?" rather than just saying "WOW"

Vector, Rush, man that takes me back. The first time I heard Hemispheres on headphones I just got lost in it. And that's the listening experience I want back.

I just hope this isn't going to be a long term problem.           “Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.”
Frank Zappa
bukboy
Hyperboreans

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Posted : Jun 16, 2013 15:06
bodfun - just wait till you realize that all the popular stuff is almost exclusively just repetitive tricks making monkeys bounce up and down.

Will you still want to be one of those monkeys? Will you want to be the monkey master? Bliss is ignorance. (Yes not the other way around.)
Droid Official
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Posted : Jun 16, 2013 16:32
Bahh..i don't have monitors at my bedroom, but sounds good on my speakers, but i need truth! so im searching some job to find for the TRUTH sound           ---------------------------------------------
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Martian Arts

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Posted : Jun 16, 2013 16:40
I do analyze things I listen to, more so today that I am making tunes my self.

I still enjoy the stuff I do as much as I did, even more so.

Anyway, just do more drugs.           
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vipal
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Posted : Jun 16, 2013 16:58
Quote:

On 2013-06-16 16:32, Droid Official wrote:
Bahh..i don't have monitors at my bedroom, but sounds good on my speakers, but i need truth! so im searching some job to find for the TRUTH sound



there you go:
http://www.behringer.nl/EN/Products/B2031A.aspx
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 16, 2013 19:02
Quote:

On 2013-06-16 16:58, vipal wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-06-16 16:32, Droid Official wrote:
Bahh..i don't have monitors at my bedroom, but sounds good on my speakers, but i need truth! so im searching some job to find for the TRUTH sound



there you go:
http://www.behringer.nl/EN/Products/B2031A.aspx




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Upavas
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Posted : Jun 16, 2013 23:16
Quote:

On 2013-06-16 19:02, Colin OOOD wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-06-16 16:58, vipal wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-06-16 16:32, Droid Official wrote:
Bahh..i don't have monitors at my bedroom, but sounds good on my speakers, but i need truth! so im searching some job to find for the TRUTH sound



there you go:
http://www.behringer.nl/EN/Products/B2031A.aspx




God no.




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Equilizyme
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Posted : Jun 18, 2013 18:21
try listening while exercising, usually turns off "analytical listening mode" for me...           --
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